jtfanclub Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 lol@ the concept of defining what bids after a keycard response means in order to fix having no forcing raise in your system. Maybe it would be better spending your discussion time adding a forcing raise to your system! I don't understand the point of this. I'm not saying "Hey, I have this great new system. I'm calling it Standard American. Everybody should try it!" This is the SAYC forum. In SAYC, there is no GF raise of a minor. It wasn't my idea! I'm saying that if you're playing SAYC with no other agreements, and this auction comes up, a 6♦ bid has to show diamonds, because there isn't another good way to bid it. Certainly if you're playing with a regular partner, you should have something a little more sophisticated than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 You do have a point.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogeshdg Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 The 6♦ call has only 1 meaning if it isnt a defined call. It means "Partner I have picked a fine time to pick your brains. I want to see what you do here and we can have a nice argument after hand is over." You should never make bids that you are reasonably sure partner will not be expected to understand. Dont stress him. He has to play the hand too! There surely has to be a better way of bidding the hand. I really hate it when people do "suit corrections"(and i am guessing this 6♦ was to play). I am sure responder had a nice ♦ raaise ,didnt know how to bid it so responded 1♥ with no ♥ suit and after pd jumped to 4♥ knew the partnership had combined slam values. So he bids 4nt asking for aces or keycards and then realizing one keycard is missing signs off in 6♦. LOL You think partner is expected to understand all this?I am sure he will bid 6♥ and then responder will bid 6NT and blame opener when he goes down in 6NT(if 6♦ is cold). I totally agree with Jlall. If you dont have a forcing minor raise in your system invent one by spending some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I've never played SAYC, and never will. But I've played natural systems for ages. I can't remember NOT playing inverted minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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