Yogeshdg Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 You hold [hv=s=sjt5hkt843dj973c6]133|100|Scoring: Imps[/hv] Opps play precision Rho is dealer.Auction goes p-p-2♣(precision)-x-p what to bid ? 2clubs shows 11-15 5+♣ may have 4 card of another suit(including ♦). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 2♥ looks normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 2H wtp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Darn it, no unanimous poll again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I can't decide between 3NT and 4♠. Good problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 2♥ wtp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 FWIW, IMO a decent "defense" to a Precision 2♣ opening includes a Herbert Negative here, even if you do not use a Herbert Negative anywhere else. IF using that approach, I'd still bid 2♥, because of the fifth heart and well-placed stiff. It is weird that I have a well-placed stiff, as 2♣-X-P-? is unlikely to occur here. But, I'm looking at a stiff club nonetheless. It seems that partner may have a double-bid-own-suit hand, which I will fit, or a balanced monster hand, which I will fit as well. Arguably, perhaps I should bid 2♦ in this approach, planning to raise any call or to transfer after 2NT to hearts. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 FWIW, IMO a decent "defense" to a Precision 2♣ opening includes a Herbert Negative here, even if you do not use a Herbert Negative anywhere else. IF using that approach, I'd still bid 2♥, because of the fifth heart and well-placed stiff. It is weird that I have a well-placed stiff, as 2♣-X-P-? is unlikely to occur here. But, I'm looking at a stiff club nonetheless. It seems that partner may have a double-bid-own-suit hand, which I will fit, or a balanced monster hand, which I will fit as well. Arguably, perhaps I should bid 2♦ in this approach, planning to raise any call or to transfer after 2NT to hearts. Interesting. Only you Ken could find more than a sentence to say about one of the more obvious problems in forums history... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 2♥. There definitely aren't any other sane alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I can't decide between 3NT and 4♠. Good problem. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 I can't decide between 3NT and 4♠. Good problem. At least you have settled on game. Maybe they will both be down four ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 I would like to bid 1♥, but the BBO software will not let me. It doesn't seem to like my "responsive double" idea either. Silly BBO. 2♥ I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 For the record, I was not one of the two "other" voters this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Why should we believe you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 I believe him, he was not on eof the two.He was one of the three.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 For the record, I was not one of the two "other" voters this time.....This could explain it:I can't decide between 3NT and 4♠. Good problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogeshdg Posted March 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yes 2♥ looks very normal but i wanted some opinion on 3♥. What does 3♥ say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Yes 2♥ looks very normal but i wanted some opinion on 3♥. What does 3♥ say? 3♥ shows a better hand. At least another ace and you are getting close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 3♥ shows a better hand. At least another ace and you are getting close. I would think it would show the same hand as.... 1♠ X P 3♥ Maybe a hair stronger, since the Xer may not have 4 card support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 3♥ shows a better hand. At least another ace and you are getting close. I would think it would show the same hand as.... 1♠ X P 3♥ Maybe a hair stronger, since the Xer may not have 4 card support. I think a hair weaker since partner doubled on the two level, not the one level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkdood Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Even 3H after 1S-x-p has been a long-time "delicate" matter... ...seems like (depending upon pard, opps, vul, and form of scoring) it should be something like Axx AJxxx xx xxx... ...but in these days of total tricks laws, what would one do with a 4count suchas xxx QJTxxx JTx x? Could "only 2H" be right? 4H even NV seems way too bold. 3H seems sort of "just right". Maybe 3x in these auctions should be "tactical" and allow for the weaker hands with longish trumps, not exactly preemptive, but then again:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Yes 2♥ looks very normal but i wanted some opinion on 3♥. What does 3♥ say? 3♥ says that you have pulled the wrong card from the bidding box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogeshdg Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Even 3H after 1S-x-p has been a long-time "delicate" matter... ...seems like (depending upon pard, opps, vul, and form of scoring) it should be something like Axx AJxxx xx xxx... ...but in these days of total tricks laws, what would one do with a 4count suchas xxx QJTxxx JTx x? Could "only 2H" be right? 4H even NV seems way too bold. 3H seems sort of "just right". Maybe 3x in these auctions should be "tactical" and allow for the weaker hands with longish trumps, not exactly preemptive, but then again:) Finally someone knows what he is talking about. I know 3♥ is just right ;) . I just wanted to know how many would bid it. My partner didnt like the bid (we went -1 ). Only after score from other table came up (3♣ making) did he quieten down . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 ROTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Even 3H after 1S-x-p has been a long-time "delicate" matter... ...seems like (depending upon pard, opps, vul, and form of scoring) it should be something like Axx AJxxx xx xxx... ...but in these days of total tricks laws, what would one do with a 4count suchas xxx QJTxxx JTx x? Could "only 2H" be right? 4H even NV seems way too bold. 3H seems sort of "just right". Maybe 3x in these auctions should be "tactical" and allow for the weaker hands with longish trumps, not exactly preemptive, but then again:) Finally someone knows what he is talking about. I know 3♥ is just right ;) . I just wanted to know how many would bid it. My partner didnt like the bid (we went -1 ). Only after score from other table came up (3♣ making) did he quieten down . So you came to see what is right, or wait for 1 out of 64 people to agree with you (well "maybe" in his words) so you could finally justify what you already "know"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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