han Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Playing with a callous junior you pick up the following hand at all white, IMPs: xx AxA98xQ97xx pass - (pass) - 2D - (2S)??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 3♦ only. Here, I don't want to bid 4♦ because fetching a 4♠ bid doesn't seem like a triumph - I have no reason to think 4♠ will go down. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Five is right out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 4♦. I have no reason to think 4♠ will make and I have no reason to think LHO won't bid it if I pussy (foot) around with 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 4D. This puts on some pressure. A 3D bid is really a nothing bid and gives the opps far too much room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 This really depends on who pard is. If he is the type to open at the 1 level with a 5 card suit and weak hand fairly often then I would bid 4. If he is the type to open at the 2 level with a 5 card suit and weak hand fairly often I would bid 3. Since you were playing with me I would bid 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 4♦. I don't mind declaring 4♦, I don't mind defending 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 I think this is another good hand for 4♣ non-forcing gerber. If partner has preempted with a minor two-suiter we can find our sacrifice, and this bid takes up as much space as 4♦. And if partner answers aces, opponents will never figure it out! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 If you have the philosophy that a 3rd seat W preempt can be anything then 3D is enough otherwise i bid 4. Partner could easily be 4261 and bidding 4D is the only way to bury the H fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 I like 4♣, althou I would never call it any form of gerber, but I still like te bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 4♦. I don't mind declaring 4♦, I don't mind defending 4♠. Unfortunately you will be dummy and poor partner will have to declare :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 3♦ 4♦ I don't care much. I can see either working well and either working badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 3NT, suggesting a save if pard's hand is suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 This really depends on who pard is. If he is the type to open at the 1 level with a 5 card suit and weak hand fairly often then I would bid 4. If he is the type to open at the 2 level with a 5 card suit and weak hand fairly often I would bid 3. Since you were playing with me I would bid 4. Agree with this. Playing with myself I'd be conserned about 3NT being on. But I'd not try 3♠, since that would give LHO the opportunity to X. So I'd raise to 4♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 3D. Lets see, what comes from this. You are fairly strong, which means one need not be afraid of defending against 4S, and 2D may well be based on a 5 carder with strength in the mayor, and partner may or may not be weak. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 No expert here, but I'm curious as to if anybody else plays it this way... I bid 3♦. If the next player bids 3♠, and my partner passes, then I will pass throughout.If the next player bids 3♠, and my partner bids 4♦, then I will double 4♠ should I get the opportunity. If the next player bids 4♠, well, it didn't hurt anything to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 No expert here, but I'm curious as to if anybody else plays it this way... I bid 3♦. If the next player bids 3♠, and my partner passes, then I will pass throughout.If the next player bids 3♠, and my partner bids 4♦, then I will double 4♠ should I get the opportunity. If the next player bids 4♠, well, it didn't hurt anything to try. Nope, don't play it this way because:- I don't play with partners who bid their hand twice. I don't like -790s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Nope, don't play it this way because:- I don't play with partners who bid their hand twice. Maybe I should clarify. We play that walking the dog shows substantial defense. This is especially true for 3rd hand weak bids, which for us are very wide ranging. I would like to know if others define it the same way. I don't know why one would define opener's rebid as "bidding their hand twice". Seems like a waste of a perfectly good bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I'd bid 4C. If that's too much opposite this partner, I'd bid 3C, which is also fit-showing. By the way, is Justin particularly callous? If so, how does this callousness manifest itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 By the way, is Justin particularly callous? If so, how does this callousness manifest itself? I only know it from hear-say (vugraph) so I can't tell you. I bid only 3D, shame on me. LHO had a monster with a diamond void so I don't think it would have mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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