han Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Red against white, IMPs K8xx7xxxxxKxx 1S - (Dbl) - ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I hope I have misunderstood the title :) it seems like I am the only one who finds this sort of thing offensive in an open “bridge” forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Interesting hand... Not many HCPs, but not many losers.. I'm torn between 1. Showing a mixed raise with 4+ card support. Many people use 2NT for this... My wory about 2NT is that it understates the offensive strength of the hand. 2. Bidding an immediate 4♠... The problem with this bid is that I won't feel happy if LHO bids 4NT 3. Psyching some bid that shows a club suit. My gut says that this is likely to work best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 4sp, glp, run quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegill Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 This seems like a normal 4♠ bid to me. Maybe it'll make, maybe they'll bid 5m and go down. Let them guess who's making what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I hope I have misunderstood the title :) it seems like I am the only one who finds this sort of thing offensive in an open “bridge” forum. It was meant humorous and not at all sexist. If you find it offensive though then I will refrain from using such titles in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 3♠ for me, but I like to play this as more of a mixed raise than a purely preemptive raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 What systemic options do I have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I didn't want to restrict you in any way Ken, use whatever you like or what you think is or should be standard. I did not have anything available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I can hardly see how my long hearts will be of any use, I am happy with just 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I didn't want to restrict you in any way Ken, use whatever you like or what you think is or should be standard. I did not have anything available. Yippee!!! OK. If I got to do whatever I want, I'd bid 1NT Suit/Lead, suggesting club values of some variety (the "Lead" variety). If I get the chance later, I'll jump to 4♦ as a splinter, confirming that 1NT was lead-directional with a club card but giving partner two good options in the defense, as he sees fit. Maybe this little sequence provides him the info he needs for a slam move on occasion, such as if he has ♠AQxxx ♥A ♦xxx ♣AQJx. A neat auction would be: 1♠-X-1NT!-2♥-X(support for clubs)-P-4♦(splinter, spade support)-P-4NT... I can dream. Alternatively, good stuff on defense might occur. Partner might know to lead from AQ or QJ or AJ or such in clubs, or might lead Ace-out in diamonds, or any number of neat things. Without all that, I suppose 4♠. Boring, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 H-xfer then S-raise. Hope pard has 'right' stuff. Maybe he even leaves space to C-spl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Sufficient ZAR fit points to bid a confident 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I'd most probably bid 2NT, 4c support inv+. I'd have other systemic alternatives too, depending on which regular I partner, but would go for 2NT as the best alternative. I'd need another trump to bid 4♠, except from that, the hand is ok for that approach too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 We have available a constructive 3♠ raise or a descriptive 3♣ Splinter. This hand fits somewhere between the two. I would probably upgrade to the splinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I bid only 3♠ which lead to a disaster, I need to grow some synapses. Next time though I will grab the bull by the balls horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 This is a completely textbook mixed raise. These problems stem from not having a bid available to show a mixed raise. I think everyone should. At these colors a 3S bid is close to a mixed raise anyways so I think that's fine, but I'd recommend playing that 1M X 3(M-1) be played as a mixed raise. Heaven forbid you have to give up a nice fit jump though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 This is a completely textbook mixed raise. These problems stem from not having a bid available to show a mixed raise. I think everyone should. At these colors a 3S bid is close to a mixed raise anyways so I think that's fine, but I'd recommend playing that 1M X 3(M-1) be played as a mixed raise. Heaven forbid you have to give up a nice fit jump though! Mixed raises come up much more often than 0-6 raises. I would happily give away the really weak raises to include a more constructive weakish raise. In fact we have done just that simply on the grounds of frequency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 It was meant humorous and not at all sexist. If you find it offensive though then I will refrain from using such titles in the future. I bid only 3♠ which lead to a disaster, I need to grow some synapses. Next time though I will grab the bull by the balls horns. I don’t get it, your first reply appears sincere then this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 7xxxxx lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 4♠ With 4 card support and a singleton I would rather bid 4♠ than show a mixed raise and stop at the 3 level. On this particular hand, holding 7xxxxx of hearts, you might get away with 3♠ because one of the disastrous results (opponents bidding a cold 4♥ and you and partner passing it out because you have bid your hands) looks impossible, but I still prefer 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 3c...bergen on still 4 card support 8-11 support pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I bid only 3♠ which lead to a disaster, I need to grow some synapses. Next time though I will grab the bull by the balls horns. Hehe. Honestly 3♠ would not occur to me. I think 4♠ really is a good bid, since no matter what you do you have no idea who can make what, and this could easily roll opposite a total min. Even if I had a mixed raise available I would sooner show this as a limit raise in competition. Although I do agree with Justin this is a textbook mixed raise, I tend to make my limit and mixed raises in competition much lighter than most when I have good shape. Sorry Jillybean I don't see where you are taking offense. This looks like a case of offense-run-amok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I've had good luck treating 4 card support and a side 6 the same as 5 card support and a side stiff. 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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