han Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 IMPs, red against white, standard methods. xxxQJ9xxxJxxQ p - (p) - 1D - (2C)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 2♥ The concern might be that partner thinks we have 5 hearts and didn't open because we have 'only' 10 HCP. (Instead, we have 6 hearts and were too weak to open a vul 2♥ :ph34r: ). But with a singleton club and a 6 card major, we have to do something... so 2♥ it is. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I thought Pass wtp but i guess not, assuming standard methods. :ph34r: side note, even playing NFB i pass....easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Pass, easy for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 pass. there has to be some lower limit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 It's sick but I'd probably bid 2♥. Since we didn't preempt, the hearts are better than expected even though the hand is worse. Obv wouldnt do this as an uph, and am only doing it now because I think partner will have a tough time reopening since we have a stiff club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Pass. And a side note: if playing NFB, I wouldbid. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 There was a hand a while back where you had about an 8-count with a decent 5-card spade suit something like KJ10xxQxQxxxxx on which I suggested bidding 2S after P P 1D (2C) and was in a minority of approximately one. That was a better hand than this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 There was a hand a while back where you had about an 8-count with a decent 5-card spade suit something like KJ10xxQxQxxxxx on which I suggested bidding 2S after P P 1D (2C) and was in a minority of approximately one. That was a better hand than this one. I'd bid 2♠ here too since I don't expect P to reopen with honor doubleton clubs. I wonder if I posted anything in that thread, and if it matches my answer here =) They are both pretty close IMO. Change the clubs to two small and the hearts to Qxx and it's not as close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 No consideration for 2♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Nope, no 2♦. I'll just pass and bid hearts later. Now, why didn't I open 2♥????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 There was a hand a while back where you had about an 8-count with a decent 5-card spade suit something like KJ10xxQxQxxxxx on which I suggested bidding 2S after P P 1D (2C) and was in a minority of approximately one. That was a better hand than this one.http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=23121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 2♥is completelly missleading, as Nuno says, if you didn't open 2♥ is beause you can't bid 2♥ now, so be consistent with your previous bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 It's sick but I'd probably bid 2♥. Since we didn't preempt, the hearts are better than expected even though the hand is worse. Obv wouldnt do this as an uph, and am only doing it now because I think partner will have a tough time reopening since we have a stiff club. And why is that a bad thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Agree with Frances that there has to be some lower limit.Unfavorable is also not the time to mess around. Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I find it helpful, in cases like this, to imagine what my call will sound like to partner, and how close my hand is to that meaning. If I opened 1♦ in 3rd chair and saw partner bid 2♥ over a 2♣ intervention, I would expect a 9 - 11 count with 5 hearts, and I would bid accordingly. Anyone who bids 2♥ here doesn't deserve a partner, imo. As josh implied, why are we so sure that defending 2♣, when partner has to pass, is all bad? We hold a 6 count, including the (probably) wasted club Queen. Partner probably has values, yet didn't open 1N. Would any of us be surprised to see partner with a good 4=1=4=4 or similar? And, surely, we are well-placed if we pass this hand, at least most of the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 We have to pass. I'm not happy. Pard will frequently have a weak NT, or possibly an 18-19, with 3-4 clubs and will pass with both. With the former, we should be competing for the part score. With the latter, we might be missing the game. I don't see a solution. Playing garbage multi, we would have been in the auction already, but thats not really an answer here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I doubled and my partner ended up playing 2SX in a 3-3 fit. Sorry partner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I doubled and my partner ended up playing 2SX in a 3-3 fit. Sorry partner! Partner was 3253? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 No, 3-2-4-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 No, 3-2-4-4. KJx Ax Kxxx Jxxx :( 2♠ May be ugly. May be a silly 3-3 fit, but it won't be -670 Yesterday my 3-3 fit for the day on the two level was -1100 :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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