shanbari Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=s842h6432dajt872c]133|100|Scoring: IMP1N (3C) ??[/hv] North open 1N (15-17), east preempty 3C, what south do now ? thanks added: we play negative x at this auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchTsch Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Pass I don't see a game.I will be happy with plus score. No need to endplay partner for a partscore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 depends on your agreements. If you play negative doubles, I might do that, even if the hand is a little light on HCP. If you play penalty doubles and all bids forcing, I'm passing and pulling partner's double to 3♦. In reality, passing is probably your best bet, although I wouldn't be surprised to learn that other actions also score well on the hand if partner interprets it correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Dbl. Happy to be playing that as take-out. Yes, pard can pass and they can make. That's why preempts work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 A good hand for adjective-bridge... '3 to play ♦' I wouldn't negative double. It might work brilliantly, but it is a high-variance bid. You will get a lot of great results and a lot of horrific results.... whatever happens would be an abnormal contract. I might double if playing on a team where we were outgunned..... down the middle would be losing bridge most of the time, so swing for the fences.. but that isn't my style. For me, this is a reluctant but clear pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I would like to be able to play 3♦, however I am not so sure this is not forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I would like to be able to play 3♦, however I am not so sure this is not forcing.it is definitely forcing in standard methods... it is customary to lose the invitational hands after a 3 level preempt (certainly, the i nvitational one-suiters) and either underbid or overbid, since there is no room. And to use a 3-level bid as 'to play' is far too narrow a target, offering far to narrow a reward when 'right'. Game bidding becomes even more of a guess... say you had a slightly stronger hand.. where some game was probable... would you have to bid 4♦ to force? Thereby avoiding 3N? Etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I hate it but have to pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Pas, I would double at MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 3♦ natural and non-forcing. I play the same way in a major. Why should their 3♣ prevent me from competing for the hand. If I had six hearts or spades like this then I expect partner to pass but she can raise with a super fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I would like to be able to play 3♦, however I am not so sure this is not forcing.it is definitely forcing in standard methods... it is customary to lose the invitational hands after a 3 level preempt (certainly, the i nvitational one-suiters) and either underbid or overbid, since there is no room. And to use a 3-level bid as 'to play' is far too narrow a target, offering far to narrow a reward when 'right'. Game bidding becomes even more of a guess... say you had a slightly stronger hand.. where some game was probable... would you have to bid 4♦ to force? Thereby avoiding 3N? Etc. As i said in my other post we play non-forcing bids here. Our style is: Dbl - takeout with double and bid being strong (forcing below game) new suit at the three-level not forcing but at least semi-encouraging 3NT to play cue - both majors 4♦ leaping michaels ♦ + Major 4Major to play It seems bizarre to me to have partner open the bidding and after a 3minor bid from the opponents that we cannot compete for a part-score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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