plaur Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 [hv=s=s8hkdt98432ct5432]133|100|Scoring: MP1♣-X-1♠-?[/hv]MP's we are nonvul against vul. The takeout double is never a scruffy hand by agreement, we just pass those. 1 spade shows a five card suit.How do you decide what number of diamonds to bid?What thought process do you use to find the right number ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 2♦ seems clear for a number of reasons. Primarily: 1) If you jump, partner will play you for having better defense/overall values. If he has a strong hand with hearts, he is not going to be thrilled.2) Long clubs is not nearly as good as long hearts.3) Partner will double on a lot of 4423 hands.4) Your hand just isn't good. (I don't know if this is clear--3♦ is a strong bid, not preemptive, if you have no special agreements.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I would pass. I really believe in this strategy even though people disagree with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I quite like 4♦ here. Partner has asked us to bid a suit, and we have 6 cards in one of these suits.If partner is strong, he may be able to bid 4♥ or 5♦.If partner is minimum, perhaps opponents would have finished in 2 or 3 of a major making, or even 3NT. Now, they might pass us out in 4♦, they might make a takeout double and land in 4M (possibly doubled by partner), or they might double us for a number. Playing 4♦X will often be bad for us, but I think there are enough upsides to make up for it. As Roger has mentioned, 3♦ here would show values, which our hand lacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 2 Diamond feels right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Partner has asked us to bid a suit, and we have 6 cards in one of these suits. No. Partner showed either a takeout X hand, or a hand too strong for a simple overcall. Partner always rates far and away to have the takeout X hand. However, when we have 3 points and 1-1 in the majors and the opps have not bid hearts, there is a HUGE chance partner is going to X and bid hearts (or NT, or spades..). Who are you preempting with 4D? I think partner. Even if we bid 2D, partner's 2H advance now becomes forcing on the basis that our freebid promises something. Bidding with hands that have huge fits opposite a normal t/o X and have almost no value opposite a double and bid again when the latter is far more likely given our hand and the auction does not make sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 In mp to play that freebid promise extra is a losing proposition. I dont play that 2H over 2D is forcing and im pretty sure its better to play it that way (at least in mp). This being said Im not sure 2D is a wise bid. It will allow the opener to make a probable support X. While passing will still allow you to bid 3D. The upside of 2D is that it will allow partner to raise you so you can sac at 4D or 5D depending on the vuln. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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