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K 94 AKJ752 AK32, both vulnerable, IMPs. You open 1[CL] and partner responds 1[SP]. What do you bid?  

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  1. 1. K 94 AKJ752 AK32, both vulnerable, IMPs. You open 1[CL] and partner responds 1[SP]. What do you bid?

    • 2[CL]
      26
    • 2[DI]
      2
    • 3[CL]
      13
    • 3[DI]
      2
    • 3NT
      0
    • 4NT
      0
    • Something else
      0


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Assume that you're not playing anything clever.

 

Edit: I didn't realise that the suit symbols wouldn't come out in the poll, but I expect it's obvious what the options are supposed to be.

 

Further edit: Sorry, you opened 1, not 1. Partner did respond 1, so I did manage to get something right.

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This hand is a classic 1 followed by 2 followed by 3. 6-4, good hand, good suits, not enough to force to game.
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Often overbidding to GF helps you to bid your shape. Here it seems the opposite, after 1D 1S 3C 3D (likely), I am kind of endplayed into bidding 4 and lose 3N (which could still be the best game). But after 1D 1S 2C 2S 3D we have given a good picture (even though not the full value) of our hand, and partner will bid 3N when that is right.

This makes me lean towards 2C, even though I think the hand is worth a GF.

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after 1D 1S 3C 3D (likely), I am kind of endplayed into bidding 4 and lose 3N (which could still be the best game).

I'm sorry if I'm starting to sound like a parrot, but after 1-1; 3-3, some of us would be able to bid 3, Fourth Suit Forcing.

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I remember Fred once said that you should only GF if you can control your auction and know what to do next. Here I don't know what my next rebid will be , and so I decide to take the slow approach with 2C.
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:) 3

I really don't understand any other bid. 3 alerts partner to game possibilities plus provides a suitable stopping place for a part score if he is weak. I would rather make an overbid of 3 hoping pard has extras or (God forbid) some sort of fit, than 2. Are we interested in a club game?

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K_94_AKJ752_AK32, both vulnerable, IMPs. You open 1 and partner responds 1. What do you bid?

 

Darn close between 2C and 3C.

 

Basically it boils down to whether this hand is odds on to be upgraded to a 5 loser hand, and therefore a GF maximum, or is not and therefore stays a 6 loser medium.

 

If you think Responder is odds on to have the SA or SQ, bid 3C.

If not, bid 2C.

 

However, if you do bid 2C, your problems are not necessarily over...

1D-1S;2C-2H!??

1D-1S;2C-2S;??

1D-1S;2C-2N;??

1D-1S;2C-3S;??

 

At least some of these auctions must result in you upgrading your hand to a maximum even if you did not after the 1st round of bidding.

...and "what will you do dear?"

 

One thing the immediate 3C bidders definitely have going for them is that they are not going to have problems with the later auction since they "got their hand off their chest" with the immediate JS.

 

Even if it rates to be an overbid.

 

IMHO, this is yet another area where partners have to agree how they want to err, high or low, when the decision is this close and there might be problems in the later auction.

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