TimG Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I still haven't managed to get dealer and GIB to work together. Can anyone point me to a source for mdealer.exe? From what I have read, that version might work, but I can't seem to find the file. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Here's what I get. There are some things that are unclear about what Whereagles asked, so I will clarify with my assumptions after listing results. This is over one million random hands. Balanced 12-14: 97,007Balanced 12-14 that open 1C Natural: 42,114Balanced 18-19: 13,245Balanced 18-19 that open 1C Natural: 5,895Balanced 20+: 7,751Unbalanced Natural 1C with 11-20: 52,060Unbalanced 21+: 3,597One Suited 18-20 NOT CLUBS: 5,008 Option A: 171,318Option B: 116,425Option C: 160,415Option D: 105,522 I've made the following assumptions: (1) Balanced hands are hands with no singleton/void and at most one doubleton. This includes all 5332 patterns (even those with a 5cM) and excludes all 4225/6223 patterns. (2) Balanced hands that open 1C natural are those where there is no five-card major, at least as many clubs as diamonds, and not 4-4 in the minors. (3) Similarly, 4441 hands except for 4-4-1-4 exactly are assumed to open 1D. (4) I am always assuming first seat, so not conditioning on opponents not having opened etc. (5) One-suited hands are defined as those with a 6+ card suit, where every other suit is at least two cards shorter. So I have included 6421 and 7501 for example as "one-suited" hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I still haven't managed to get dealer and GIB to work together. Can anyone point me to a source for mdealer.exe? From what I have read, that version might work, but I can't seem to find the file. Thanks. I have put what I have here mdealer.exe It is zipped. I assume it is ok since the program is in the public domain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Thank you, thank you, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 awm: what do your results mean? That in case A 1♣ is strong 3,597 times out of 171,318? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Everything is out of a million hands. For agreement A: (1) You open 1♣ about 17% of hands, which is very high.(2) The division is roughly: 10% strong artificial; 20+ hcp balanced or 21+ hcp any or 18-20 hcp one-suited not clubs.30% unbalanced hands that open 1♣ in standard25% balanced 12-14 that open 1♣ in standard30% balanced 12-14 that open with 1♦ or 1M in standard5% balanced 18-19 that open 1♣ in standard Basically each of these percentages is the number of hands thus described divided by the number of A hands (i.e. divided by 171,000). The percentage of 1♣ openings is the same 171,000 divided by a million. What Whereagles said is basically right, if you replace "strong" with "21+ hcp and unbalanced." Most of the strong hands will be 20+ balanced hands or 18-20 one-suited hands (either of which is more frequent than 21+ and unbalanced). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Ah.. allright, I see it. It's more or less the same conclusion I got to. So basically 1♣ will be strong 10% of the times if there's no 12-14 balanced in the fray, and drops to about 7% if you dump that hand into it. Still surprising, though... I was expecting something more like 2-3%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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