kenrexford Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 1♥-3♣-3♠-P4♦-P-5♣... Question #1: What is 5♣? 1♥-3♣-3♠-P4♦-P-5♣-P-5♠? Question #2: What is 5♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 #1. A hand too good to bid game in spades or hearts, likely to contain a club control. Depends slightly what a jump to 5M would have shown: if that would have been a general slam try, then this shows doubt about strain; if a jump to 5M specifically asked about a club control then this is much more murky. #2. Natural non-forcing if partner had a single-suited spade hand. Accepting slam tries in either red suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 #1. A hand too good to bid game in spades or hearts, likely to contain a club control. Depends slightly what a jump to 5M would have shown: if that would have been a general slam try, then this shows doubt about strain; if a jump to 5M specifically asked about a club control then this is much more murky. #2. Natural non-forcing if partner had a single-suited spade hand. Accepting slam tries in either red suit. I'm not understanding this. It seemed to me that there are options with a heart fit (5♥) and with a spade suit (5♠) but not with a diamond fit (5♦ would be to play). Why have 5♣ cover the least-likely strains (Opener rejected spades and Responder rejected hearts) rather than the one suit that is most likely our fit and the one suit where a slam try is not otherwise available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Case 1: 5M is a general slam try 1. 5♣ is a slam try in diamonds2. 5♠ is a cuebid Case 2: 5M would ask for a club control 1. 5♣ is a general move towards slam in any suit, probably with a club control2. like Frances said - accepting red suit slam tries but rejecting a spade slam try If undiscussed, I wouldn't ascribe any specific meaning to 5♣ other than "interested in slam", and I wouldn't pass 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 If 5♠ is a cuebid after 5♣ as a general slam try in diamonds, then it seems that 5♠ is a grand-slam probe, as 5♠ commits to 6♦. Would 5♠ then show a spade card and imply first-round club control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 If 5♠ is a cuebid after 5♣ as a general slam try in diamonds, then it seems that 5♠ is a grand-slam probe, as 5♠ commits to 6♦. Would 5♠ then show a spade card and imply first-round club control? I don't see why it should. What would you do with Kx AQxxx AKxxx x? Also, some (all?) grand-slam tries with first-round club control would bid 6C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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