fred Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 You can update your BBO to the latest version at: www.bridgebase.com/beta364/bbo_update.exe or download everything (including the latest) from scratch at: www.bridgebase.com/beta364/bbo_setup.exe I suggest you use the first method, but whatever method youuse, please make sure you have exited the BBO programCOMPLETELY before you start! For those of you who have not tried 3.6.2 or 3.6.3 yet, Isuggest you read the description of the new features thatwere introduced in these version in previous forums posts that I have made. The main purpose of 3.6.4 was to fix some bugs that wereintroduced in 3.6.2 and 3.6.3 (thanks to everyone whoreported problems!). There are, however, some new featuresin 3.6.4: - Proper scrollbars are now used when you are at a tableand view the Table or Tourneys lists. - Lobby News now occupies its own window. - Filtering now works when you are at a table. Click the Lobbyor Table button and then click the same button again toinvoke this facility. - Players names in team matches and during vugraphbroadcasts are now color coded (as are the names of theteams where the scores are displayed). This should makeit easier for people to know which players are onwhich teams. - Andorra flag added - let us know if your flag is missing! - First step of correcting the incorrect spelling of Venezuelahas been taken. It may still take a couple of weeks beforethis problem is resolved for everyone. Sorry to our membersfrom Venezuela for this embarassing mistake. - Vugraph theatre will be used only for live broadcasts in thefuture. We will maintain an archive of past vugraph files in the Bridge Library area. - "Learn Bridge!" has been renamed "Study Bridge!". I don'treally like either name - suggestions are welcome! As usual, please let me know if you find any problems orhave any suggestions. You can either post feedback here orsend me e-mail: fred@bridgebase.com Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBruce Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Suggestion: add a file in the flags for USA1 and USA2 -- during viewing of some of the Bermuda Bowl .lin files the flag for these teams remained blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwingo Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Players names in team matches and during vugraph broadcasts are now color coded (as are the names of the teams where the scores are displayed). This should make it easier for people to know which players are on which As usual, great improvements Not a bug, only suggestions 1. Great feature. One team is light coloured blue and the other team is slightly darker blue. When it is the turn of the player ( who is in the dark blue team) to bid or play , his colour changes to light blue ( same as Opps colour ). Not a major issue, but a minor confusion can prevail. If the same colour feature can be added to the Table , it will be great. In the Team match, when you click Table , you can see the 2 Tables in play. The same colour schemes if used in this place, will add colour here and easy to identify the teams. 2. Is there a way to register to play in tournaments from a table in the Main Bridge Club? Now when an announcement of a tournaments comes in the lobby, one of uswill have to leave the Table for the registration process. Better still , if I can do it from the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie5607 Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Good additions in the new beta, especially the ability to filter from within a table. I like the new "show news" button up on the top as well. Now that I see you can put a button up there, I have a suggestion. Can we get back the "find friend" button and put it at the top of any of the "play bridge" sites, like tournaments, team games, and main bridge club? Often I want to join a friend who is watching or playing in a tourney or a team game, and I go to the lobby, see where she is, go to the appropriate playing room, and by the time I get there I have forgotten the name/number of the team game or the tournament or they all look the same and I have to navigate back to the lobby and look again. A find friend button would make that process a lot quicker and easier and allow people to track down who they want from any location, not just one where they have access to the lobby. Thanks, Julie p.s. On second thought, since there is now a chat area in every location, just putting a "view lobby" button on the top of each room and allowing people to switch from chat to lobby view in all of the bridge clubs and tournament/team game rooms would serve the purpose well and provide even better functionality. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearmum Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 I appreciale you need to test new versions - BUT why not test them on REALLY computer literate folks who would be able to revert to earlier versions if the NEW version caused problems ?? BTW I am NOT "computer literate" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirjam_3 Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 What about Improve Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted March 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 I appreciale you need to test new versions - BUT why not test them on REALLY computer literate folks who would be able to revert to earlier versions if the NEW version caused problems ?? BTW I am NOT "computer literate" :D Getting involved in the testing is a voluntary thing.I suggest that you don't get involved in testing unlessyou are fairly comfortable with things like downloading. If you are concerned that a new version is causingproblems for you, please send me e-mail and letme know what is happening. You will receive anapology as well as instructions for reverting to anorder version if that's what you want to do. My e-mailaddress is: fred@bridgebase.com We use forums to announce new releases because itis a good way to help spread the word quickly. Wealways do quite a bit of internal testing before weannounce a new release, but we depend on volunteersfrom the general BBO population in order to thoroughlytest new versions (and to get feedback). Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 omg... as a frequent kibitizer, I love the color coding of pairs in TEAM events. Great addition. Kudos to whoever came up with this idea. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted March 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 omg... as a frequent kibitizer, I love the color coding of pairs in TEAM events. Great addition. Kudos to whoever came up with this idea. Ben Deanrover6 gets the kudos for this one. The colors themselves will improve in the next version. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenbrvc Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Here's my two cents worth! :D Instead of Play Bridge! Study Bridge! Shop Bridge! How about? Bridge PlayBridge InstructionBridge Shop and leave the secondary headings. I like them because they explain what each group is about. Bridge Play - Click to play or watchBridge Instruction - Improve your gameBridge Shop - Buy bridge products I like the pop up window for the bridge news. It is great for people logging in for the first time because they can't miss it, and it will teach them to navigate the site. Keep up the great work! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie5607 Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 I like those headings, except perhaps the second one should be Bridge Resources instead, since that might more accurately describe what one can find there. And while we are at it, why not move the vugraph theatre to the Bridge Play area rather than where it is presently, since you are only going to be using it for live bridge events from now on? Just a suggestion - enjoying the program and the process, Julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 I, for one, appreciate the opportunity to use beta versions as they become available. (ok, I also peek inside Christmas presents too). Frosty/Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishovnbg Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 --------------------------------------------------------Hi Fred! ------The design of new BBO client have one main disatvantage vs old one: the long way to main lobby, most common place to play. In my opinion, will be better if program go directly in main lobby and this window to remain to be general, while list of players can be placed like buttons "tournaments", "tables"... For experienced BBO users advantage is fast way to play a few, for newcomers - click and play function to not discourage them with long way where they can lose patience. There is near nothing to do with list of players, unlike with main lobby. -----About 3 buttons in first window: good tree structure for programer doesn't mean good stucture for user. Probably we need 5 buttons: "Chat" - chat room, list of players, find person, filters..."Play" - remain same, but lobby from this list need to be main window"Read" - library, archives(include "My hands" and tournament results)"Train" - Parnership bidding, Double dummy, New training room for play?, lecture hall. By the way Fred, long time from your last lecture, hope to enjoy to new one or watch your play in your own BBO... Or you already don't like it?"Try/buy bridge" - besides demo versions of programs fragments of books can be added. Vugraph theatre must be here, probably need to pay for watching best players in the world, while for others will be in the form of "try".-----Will be nice to have same buttons in right bottom when you enter somewhere for fast switching between them. Really important addition will be possibility to register for rourney, while playing anywhere. ----------------------------Misho, BBO&Fred&Uday fan :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted March 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Here's my two cents worth! :( Instead of Play Bridge! Study Bridge! Shop Bridge! How about? Bridge PlayBridge InstructionBridge Shop and leave the secondary headings. I like them because they explain what each group is about. Bridge Play - Click to play or watchBridge Instruction - Improve your gameBridge Shop - Buy bridge products I like the pop up window for the bridge news. It is great for people logging in for the first time because they can't miss it, and it will teach them to navigate the site. Keep up the great work! Michael Interesting thoughts, but to me "Bridge Instruction" doesnot sound sexy enough. Someone suggested "Discover Bridge!" for the 2nd buttonand I kind of like that - what do you think? Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anssibragge Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Earlier I could see the version of the software rigth after logging in. Now it's been removed? Can I see at all somewhere which version I am running? :) abe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted March 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Earlier I could see the version of the software rigth after logging in. Now it's been removed? Can I see at all somewhere which version I am running? :) abe You can see the version number at the left side ofthe window that appears when you first run the BBO program (ie before you log in). I will try to include the info somewhere on the lobbyscreen if I can find the space and make it look ok. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebsae.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwingo Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Someone suggested "Discover Bridge!" for the 2nd buttonand I kind of like that - what do you think? How about "Explore Bridge" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Nice new names for those buttons :) Yep it has to be sexy and catchy, hehe. I like Discover Bridge. It seems cooler than "Explore" :) Rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted March 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Nice new names for those buttons :) Yep it has to be sexy and catchy, hehe. I like Discover Bridge. It seems cooler than "Explore" :) Rain I like both "explore" and "discover". So far those areby far my favorites out of everything I have heard. If someone knows how to set up one of those fancyForums polls so that people can vote on this pleasedo so! Thanks, Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 One thing I've noticed. When you click on a tournament, for the purposes of registering, the dialogue box in the middle, giving the description of the tournament, covers up the buttons at the bottom of the screen (register, partnership desk etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Come here to vote vote for favourite button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted March 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 One thing I've noticed. When you click on a tournament, for the purposes of registering, the dialogue box in the middle, giving the description of the tournament, covers up the buttons at the bottom of the screen (register, partnership desk etc) Thanks. This will be fixed for 3.6.5 (which will be released within the next day or so as an automaticupgrade if everything goes according to plan...). Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 I like "Discover" - it makes me think of finding something of value or a treasure. "Explore" sounds more like you're looking around for something that you might not find. Frosty/Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spwdo Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 hi, there is a bug in tournaments area, once u are on one table and u click lobby or tables or tournaments and u move from there to another table, the scroll arrows are in a diffrent place, very annoiying while u cant see current tricks played or from who made them , impossible to adjust then, please help, happens with several tds greetings marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 hi, there is a bug in tournaments area, once u are on one table and u click lobby or tables or tournaments and u move from there to another table, the scroll arrows are in a diffrent place, very annoiying while u cant see current tricks played or from who made them , impossible to adjust then, please help, happens with several tds greetings marc I cannot seem to replicate this. Can you please tell me: 1) What version of BBO you are using 2) What is your screen resolution 3) Do you run BBO in "wide mode" or not 4) Any other details you can provide Thanks, Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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