cnszsun Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=skqxhkxxdakq9xcxx]133|100|Scoring: IMPps-3♠-ps-?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Raise to game. Partner needs two first round controls for slam to be making, which is hugely unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Personally, I'd bid 4♠ 1. Partner just opened 3♠ vulnerable in second seat on a real crappy Spade suit. Simply put, I don't have enough confidence in his bidding to risk trying for slam. 2. In order to have a good shot a slam partner needs to table a pair of bullets and a 7 card Spade suit. It might happen, but it feels like I'm shooting at a real small target. 3. Even if partner does put down a seven card Spade suit with two Aces, we still might have some issues in 6♠. If partner has the Ace of Clubs and opening heart lead could be a pisser. If partner has the Ace of Hearts than we almost certainly have two fast Club losers. If I decided that I was desperate for a big swing I might just punt a 6NT bid... I can see this working some percentage of the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 4♠. Slam isn't even on the radar screen. On a really bad day, 4♠ could go -1 or -2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 I agree with Phil. There is no guarantee that 4♠ will make. I would say that you will make less than 10 tricks 10% of the time, and that slam will be cold less than 5% of the time - partner needs the ♠A, first round heart control and second round club control for slam to be cold. Is it possible? Sure. But not likely. For example, partner could have: AT9xxxx----xxxKxx Even this hand does not make slam 100%, but I will take my chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 4♠. Slam isn't even on the radar screen. On a really bad day, 4♠ could go -1 or -2. Only -2?[hv=n=skq2hk32dakq9xc32&w=shqj10dxxxxcaxxxxx&e=sj107haxxxdj10xxckq&s=sa986543hxxxdcj65]399|300|3S P 4S all pass[/hv] The defence start with 3 rounds of hearts followed by three rounds of clubs. (OK, it's not much of a second seat 3S opening, and it's a bit of a Friday afternoon fantasy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 4S, with no slam thoughts whatsoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 No. 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjames Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Agree with all the other 4♠ bidders, that we should be in a slam really wouldn't cross my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 It's not the fact we need 2 aces, it's that we need 2 specific aces as well as the ace we are missing onside (unless we are lucky enough to catch some useful singleton). No thanks. Now if I had a stiff club... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Try to find any of the Rosenkraz book. There is structure for responding to preempts where a 4 level bids ask for a control, the preemptor if having the control make a keycard responses. This is a killer tool both for imps & for MP. This hand is the perfect hand for it. You will bid slam if the side card is the A of clubs or the A of H and a stiff clubs wich isnt unlikely at all. Those who think AJxxxxx and no side card is a 2nd seat red preempt are playing too much MP and not enough imps. Red 3 level preempt 2nd seat should be more often 5 losers then 6 losers. so over 4C my preffered responses are 4D 1 + control but no card4H 1+ control + card (only if we have the space)4S no C control or 0 keycard4Nt 2+control 5C 2+Q + control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Hi, depends on the style of a 3S opening bid, but 4Sseems enough. If it promises at most -2, than you have 4-5tricks for partner, that means slam willbe at best 50%.If it promises at most -3, than you may ormay not make 5S. If you have other agreements, ... Know your partnershi style, and you can answeryour question yourself, if you dont know him, nobody can. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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