han Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sajxhxxd108xcaj8xx]133|100|Scoring: IMPp - p - 1D - (2H)??[/hv] What's your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Double. Yes, I owe partner a spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Obvious X, nothing else is close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Do I need immediate action on this hand? I think partner reopens on any future-in-it hand. Then my delayed strong action shows this tainted S-holding, near 3C bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I tend to pass rather than making offshape negative doubles but this is a sure exception for me. I love where the honors are and it's getting borderline too good to risk passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Not stuck. Dbl... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Do I need immediate action on this hand? I think partner reopens on any future-in-it hand. I doubt that. Unless LHO raises hearts, it's good odds pard will have something like 3 hearts to an honor and pass this out. You have to bid NOW. Hence either 3♣ or dbl. I prefer dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dbl is clear. I think I would try 3♦ in a weak-NT context (or 3♣ if that is not GF) but that's probably off-topic. Btw, is it really optimal to play negative doubles and forcing freebids here? The only way to end in 2♠ is if responder makes a negative double and opener happens to be minimal with 4 spades. Wouldn't it be better to play dbl as primarily a NFB in spades, and then bid 2♠ with (usually) 4 spades? (Not sure if 2♠ should be forcing or if the strong hands with 4 spades should double, just a vague idea). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I tend to pass rather than making offshape negative doubles but this is a sure exception for me. I love where the honors are and it's getting borderline too good to risk passing. What he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 The Bridge World puts this hand in its bidding competition (MSC) every few months to see how many panelists will distort the system and double (which guarantees 4 spades in BW Standard). I'm sure they'd be fairly unanimous with doubling here. (Interestingly the March issue has a similar hand but with two spades and three diamonds and there were still 2 doublers!). Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dbl is clear. I think I would try 3♦ in a weak-NT context (or 3♣ if that is not GF) but that's probably off-topic. Btw, is it really optimal to play negative doubles and forcing freebids here? The only way to end in 2♠ is if responder makes a negative double and opener happens to be minimal with 4 spades. Wouldn't it be better to play dbl as primarily a NFB in spades, and then bid 2♠ with (usually) 4 spades? (Not sure if 2♠ should be forcing or if the strong hands with 4 spades should double, just a vague idea). I know someone who likes to play that double = 3 or 5 spades, an immediate 2S = 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dbl (nothing else available) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewj Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 My partner isn't afraid of 4-3 fits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 My partner isn't afraid of 4-3 fitsor is he just happy when they are that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Wouldn't it be better to play dbl as primarily a NFB in spades, and then bid 2♠ with (usually) 4 spades? (Not sure if 2♠ should be forcing or if the strong hands with 4 spades should double, just a vague idea). I like that idea. I don't think you could include strong hands with four spades in the double - it would make it too difficult to handle a raise by LHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 My partner isn't afraid of 4-3 fits Double is correct....but.... How does your partner like 3-3 fits... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Playing a unbalanced 1♦ opening, It would be close between double and 3♦. Playing more standard I'd no doubt make a negative double here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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