awm Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=s9xxxxhtxxdakxc9x]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Opponents silent. You're dealer: Pass - 1♦1♠ - 2♣2♦ - 3♣ What's your next call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 4 seems like enough. Reminds me of that story they tell kids with the 3 bears and the girl :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I gave this a deep though, at first I though 3♦ was enough and voted for it, but I have rethough, doubleton club is not great, but we can ruff with top diamonds for free most of the time. 4♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I voted for 4. I'm not going to hang pard for making a light invite in a minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 3♦. We are not vulnerable, partner sounds like a 5/5 16-17 or so.If he is stronger, and we make a game, he may still be able to bid on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Considering 3♦ could be made on a non-fitting dog with doubleton support, it seems rather cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 An interesting situation that I have not considered as fully as I am now considering. Partner opens 1♦ and you bid a major. Partner now bids 2♣, a call that may be quite strong, and you bid 2♦, a call that may be a courtesy correction. Partner now bids 3♣, declining to bid either major to show a fragment and complete pattern, suggesting that he lacks a fragment, of course. It seems to me, at this point is the sequence, that declaring in a major contract is out. Given that assumption, it seems that 3♥ and 3♠ should be calls that have meanings, of course. I'm just not sure what meaning should be attached to those bids. If these are not artificial calls of some variety, then it seems that some value must be shown, perhaps shortness if in the other major, perhaps slow values if if the first. Perhaps reintroducing the major suggests a 5-2 game fit? Fortunately, this specific hand leaves that issue unnecessary to resolve, directly. However, it does seem to impact the meaning of 4♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Ken, I would assume 3H = looking for 3NT lacking stopper and indeed 3S = good 5-card suit suggesting 5-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Not sure that 4♦ is right... a diamond lead may embarrass us if partner's clubs aren't good, and a major lead might embarrass us if trump are 4-1. And it isn't as if we are maximum. But we have the equivalent of 3 working cards and nothing wasted, regardless of his major suit strength (the doubleton club may be as useful as Qx, and wouldn't we fall in love with xxxxx xxx AKx Qx?) So we have to bid 4♦ and hope that partner isn't the hyperaggressive type. As for the meanings of 3Major... I think that we should be bidding the major we stop, rather than trying for the 5-2 fit.. not that I'm entirely convinced of this. But it seems to me that we will more often hold something like xxxx Axx KJx Jxx for our auction than a suit that will support game on a 5-2. Just because we bid 1♠ doesn't mean the opps won't lead it against 3N on a sequence in which we prefer diamonds and then confirm a heart stopper. Incidentally, this sequence (in the OP) is ideal for a Bluhmer (spelling?) if we held a super accept: say xxxxx Ax KJxx xx... we could bid 4♠ over 3♣, reaching slam opposite x Kx AQ10xx AKxxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I'll bid 4♦. This hand is worth much more than your average 7 hcp, i.e. KxxxKxxxJxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 3H. Asking for a heart stopper. Bidding 4D can wait. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Funny that nearly all the posters said 4♦, but 3♦ has more votes. My porridge is just right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I like 4♦ even though it would normally be four card support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 3♥ asking for a stopper? Couldn't it be 5-5 majors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Not sure that 4♦ is right... a diamond lead may embarrass us if partner's clubs aren't good, and a major lead might embarrass us if trump are 4-1. So, if you had... 76QJ5432AKQ32 would this be 1♦, 2♣, 3♣? Or 1♦, 2♣, 3♦? I guess this is another one I don't get. Partner must have better clubs than he has diamonds, probably much better. I'm having a lot of trouble picturing a 5-5 hand that bids this way. 765QJxxxAKQxx This hand doesn't bid above 2♦. 7AxQJxxxAKQxx Lots of ways to bid this one, including opening 1 club and rebidding 2 diamonds, and bidding 2NT over 2♦. It wouldn't occur to me to bid clubs twice on a hand with a heart stop. Partner has a hand where the 3 level is safe even if my suit preference was a courtesy correction and I have a minimum with all my points in the majors. And yet, he has a hand that couldn't bid 2NT (or reverse, or jump-shift) and is missing the AK of diamonds. I think he's got to have six diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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