Survey for a friend

[gwnn]

:) 3♣ nonforcing is a useful bid.  3♣ forcing is not a useful bid.  Therefore, 3♣ cannot be forcing.

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3♣ nonforcing, woo hoo

 

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3♣ nonforcing ^#$#@%&&@#%^@#$^#$^#

[Codo]

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Kxxxx

 

3♣ nonforcing ^#$#@%&&@#%^@#$^#$^#

There is the "remote" possibility that you do not need 3 CLub forcing with this hand. You may think about a 3 NT bid instead. ;)

 

But maybe x,QJxxx,xx,QJxxx is a good example for a forcing 3 Club bid?

Besides all hands, which try to play slam?

[Fluffy]

3♣ shows "Help, we might already be too high".

I agree with Gerben, looks like the most likelly outcome.

 

 

This is a different situation Nuno.

 

When you make a transfer, the NT opener's length is unknown. Here, the doubler had an option to raise, or cue, to confirm a heart fit.

I disagree, playing on a 5-2 fit when the 5 card player is weak normally produces more tricks than playing in NT thanks to the extra comunication and control.

 

And I wouldn't rule out that partner has 3 hearts.

[benlessard]

A very important question its MP or IMPS ?

 

In MP i think its rarely profitable to pull 2Nt to play 3m (especially when partner hand isnt perfectly clear) so we have the understanding that 3m over 2nt is GF. I have really a hard time finding a hand where i bid 2H instead of 2C but with enough shape to pull 2nt

 

The critical hand is the weak ?5?5

 

In IMPs it make sense more sense to want to play 3C.

[Finch]

I don't know if 3C is forcing or non-forcing. In my limit-bidding way I would guess it is non-forcing, but I'm not confident about this at all. I must remember to discuss this! There is possibly some logic to saying that a new suit is forcing if it is below the cue bid and non-forcing if it is above it (1C x P 1H P 2NT P 3D non-forcing as 3C is an easy cue) but I wouldn't spring that on anyone undiscussed.

 

By the way, I would never pull 2NT to 3H on a bad hand with five hearts. I might not pull with six hearts unless they had good pips (J109xxx say) There are two reasons why this is not the same as pulling a 1NT/2NT opening

 

i) partner does not have four hearts

 

ii) partner is far more likely to have a singleton heart than in an uncontested auction. What do you expect partner to do on, say, KQxx A AKQ10x Qxx if not double and bid 2NT over 2H? Even if partner does not have a singleton, it's more likely that partner has a good suit of her own. Surely you would also double and bid NT on AQx xx AKQxxx Kx?

[jdeegan]

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Kxxxx

 

3♣ nonforcing ^#$#@%&&@#%^@#$^#$^#

There is the "remote" possibility that you do not need 3 CLub forcing with this hand. You may think about a 3 NT bid instead. B)

 

But maybe x,QJxxx,xx,QJxxx is a good example for a forcing 3 Club bid?

Besides all hands, which try to play slam?

:P Slam. Pleeeze. A 2♥ minimum call opposite a limit (although a big hand)2NT.

Choice of games? Pleeze. 5♣ after partner has said he wants to play NT.

Do I have to spell out EVERYTHING!