jillybean Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Dealer: South Vul: EW Scoring: IMP ♠ A92 ♥ QJ4 ♦ QJ ♣ AJ962 ? Hi,My openings often come under some scrutiny :) Playing with my fav Aussie, we had this hand and disagreed on the opening. I'm interested in what your style is. If you don’t open this 1nt why not and will you rasie a 1M response from p? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 1NT, if you play 15-17 notrumps then there is no discussion possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 1NT I'd also open AQJ QJx xx AJxxx as 1NT. If I was a jack lighter, then I'd bid 1♣ and say 1NT over any major suit response. 1NT = 15-17 balanced1x, rebidding 1NT = 12-14 balanced Raising the major is a distortion, in my opinion. V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 raising on 3 cards should imply a goodish ODR. I like requiring an outside singleton or maybe 6m3M22. This hand sucks as ODR and I'd open it 1NT notwithstanding the not so sexy QJ doubleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 If you want to downgrade for QJ tight, then you should upgrade for AJ962, and upgrade a little bit for two aces and touching honors.I can't imagine downgrading this to 12-14, so I would open 1N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Hi, 1NT, assuming you are playing 15-17. It is said, that experts regular upgrade, but rarelydowngrade. You could of course make a point for downgrading the given hand, QJ tight in one suit, QJx in anotherare reason enough.E.g. if you ask the LTC, he will tell you that the hand has 8 loosers, the expected value for a 15/16HCP hand is 6, and for a 15/16 bal. hand 6,5, so this is afairly bad 15 count.------------------------------------------------------------Assuming, I did not open the hand with 1 NT, thanI would rebid 1NT, selling the hand as 12-14.I rarely raise with 3 card support, and if I do, I amcertainly not balanced With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 1NT I'd also open AQJ QJx xx AJxxx as 1NT.<snip> This hand is a whole lot strongerthan the original given hand. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Unless you have had extensive partnership discussions there will always be potential disagreement about marginal hands - one player might upgrade freely or occasionally and the other never. I wouldn't worry about these sorts of disagreements near the boundaries. For me this is a normal minimum strong 1NT. Sure the ♦ QJ might be useless but they might have some value and on average are certainly not worthless. This hand has enough plus features to make up for this flaw without downgrading. However I would understand a partner who did downgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 1NT I'd also open AQJ QJx xx AJxxx as 1NT.<snip> This hand is a whole lot strongerthan the original given hand. True. What I was aiming for was that the diamond weakness would not dissuade me from opening NT. Potential wastage in a QJ doubleton is a different issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I think downgrading is in the realm of possibility, but I would never do it. 1NT for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dodgy Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 LMAO how sweet :unsure: fwiw, I did not actually disagree with opening 1NT, I said it was 'Dodgy'. This is, of course, high praise LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I missed the joke :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 if han would not downgrade this no one would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 if han would not downgrade this no one would. I don't know about that, but I'd never downgrade this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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