Poky Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 IMPs, all love. 1♣ - 1♦ - 1♠ - 2♦pa - pa - Dbl* - pa2♥ - pa - 2♠ * Negative double Describe a typical hand you would expect partner is holding for his bidding... Ty, Poky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Before deciding what this bidding shows, you have to answer these question. Would a double of 2♦ by opener show 3♠s (support double)? I will assume that it in fact would have for my answer. Second question is what would a balancing 2NT (instead of a double) here show? Is this natural with a ♦ stopper (not a good use of this bid imho), or lebehnshol? These have important implications on removing hand types from the meanin of the dbl followed by 2♠. For instance, a strong game invite hand in ♠ would go like this for me.... 1♣-(1♦)-1♠-(2♦)-P-(P)-2NT-(p)-3♣-(p)-3♠ *NF invite. An immediate jump to 3♠ would have been GF. The availability of the 2NT followed by 3♠ bid and the availability of 2NT to bail out in ♣ when weak with a ♣ fit, allows double here to be the flexible bid. That is, when you are not so sure what to do next. First, the double should be short in ♦ in case partner has a penalty double of 2♦ (since I play immediate dbl of 2♦ as either support dbl or takeout -- depending upon partner I am playing with). When your partner doesn't pass 2♦ dbl, the 2♠ bid should be non-forcing but invitational. It is invintational because you could have always simply bid 2♠ over 2♦ if that is what you wanted to do. The implication is that the 2♠ bidder has a lot of ♠ (good five or six+) and a tolerance for ♣ (doubled 2♦ and pulled ♥, so must be willing to have withstood a 3♣ bid). Opener can bid 3♣ when holding weak hand and singleton ♠. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poky Posted March 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Would a double of 2♦ by opener show 3♠s (support double)? No. It would be simply a negative double, showing extra values and shape, but often holding 3♠. Second question is what would a balancing 2NT (instead of a double) here show? A natural ~11 balanced invitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 This is a very difficult problem, because I should see my own hand before I can say what partner has. It depends on my ♦ length to know if my partner's initial Dbl was optional or not. And since I can't know that at this moment, there's no way to continue. His Dbl was either optional (short ♦s) or now GF... Can't give an accurate answer due to not enough information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishovnbg Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 -----------------------------------------------------------Hi Poky! ------ My answer will be based on your agreements. Why your p dbl? Because he is short in ♦ and you can be trap pass ♦, despite their fit. What about his strength? He have about 8-11hcp, suitable for defense - this mean deny good ♠ suit or sure ♣ fit(5+cards). Because lack of 4 cards in ♥, he have (3)4 cards in ♣. Using same sequences as rf/gf is bad practice in competition, when you have free 3♦ cue bid for same hands, because complicate nature of such bidding and avoiding stupid mistakes. ------Hi Ben! Balancing position is one of most difficulte and usage of 2NT as convention will help a lot, as well as anywhere at 2 level of competition. If you like to bid 2NT you can simple dbl first and bid it later, if your p didn't pass of course :huh: . ----------------------------------------------------------- Misho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGF_Flame Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 5 spades with (8)9-11(12) hcp no dimond stoper and no 4 card heart and probebly not a good club suit (not good for 3club bid). example hand would be KQxxx XXX XX KJ10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Pd has about 8-11 HCP, and is short in ♦. I think pd is showing 6♠ and 4♥, but it depends on some agreements. Do we play support X Good/Bad NT etc. Mike :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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