Your action?

[cnszsun]

[hv=d=s&v=n&s=sxxxxxhadxxckqj10x]133|100|Scoring: IMP

ps-3♥-ps-4♥

4♠[/hv]

1, would you open this one, (i would if ♣ and ♠ are switched)

2, if you pass at first round, would you bid after rho's 4♥?

[P_Marlowe]

#1 No, but if I would open, if the black suits are switched,

I would open this one as well

#2 No, and if I believe that the suit was to weak to open at

the 1 level, why should I now introduce the suit at the 4

level?

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[rogerclee]

1) I would open. I have no problem with opening this either 1♠ or 1♣, but I'd open 1♠. I want to get the suit in that I think we're most likely to be able to compete with. That said, I am very worried about getting tapped on this hand.

2) Passsssssssssssssssssssssssssss. Even favorable, bidding is crazy.

[655321]

(1) Yes, I would open. If the ♥A was somewhere else, opening would be clear. Even so, I prefer to open (1♠).

(2) Yes, I bid. Double (only if clearly takeout) is possible, otherwise I bid 4♠, and if doubled I may decide to run to 5♣.

:)

[rogerclee]

(2) Yes, I bid.  Double (only if clearly takeout) is possible

What? You want partner to bid 5♦?

 

otherwise I bid 4♠, and if doubled I may decide to run

 

WOW. You expect 4♠ to not get doubled?

[the hog]

I open.

Having Caspar Milquetoasted, I certainly bid 4S.

 

WOW. You expect 4♠ to not get doubled?

Who knows????

[Gerben42]

Partner knows I open all 1-suiters in ♠ directly, so this shows a 2-suiter in ♠.

[655321]

(2) Yes, I bid.  Double (only if clearly takeout) is possible

What? You want partner to bid 5♦?

Probably I would bid 4♠ instead of double, but double to me is a plausible bid.

No, I don't want partner to bid 5♦ :)

 

But, he might pass the double, he might bid 4♠, or even 5♣. And if he bid 5♦ he might have 6 of them. Certainly, we could be in trouble by bidding, but we could also be in trouble by passing. Always a pity to go -420 when you could have gone +420.

 

WOW. You expect 4♠ to not get doubled?

Perhaps RHO has KQJTx of spades and partner is void. Perhaps partner has AKxx of spades, and they break 2-2. Who knows? :)

 

But they dealt you 5-5 in the blacks, good playing strength, and it feels very bad to sell out meekly to 4♥. If I end up going for a number, it won't be the first or the last time, but the IMPS I lose by going for 800 or 1100 are no worse than the IMPS you lose by going -420 or +50 when you are cold for game.

[brianshark]

Pass quietly both times.

[Codo]

bid loudly both times. :)

 

1 Club opening ( I know I know I know I know I know (To quote ABBA) nobody opens 1 Club with 5/5 blacks any more. I do.)

 

After I chickend out first round, 4 Spade now to show a two suiter.

[Fluffy]

If going to open I open 1♣ because I only have 4 spades.

 

I like to overcall 4♠ at second round, my partner already knows this shows a 2 suiter.

[jdonn]

And how do all these 2-suiter guaranteeing people bid a 6-4 hand in the majors now, or is passing every 6-4 hand to begin with illegal? Not to mention 7-4.... I still probably pass to begin with, and then double later.

[Fluffy]

pass with 7-4? I don't even pass with 6-4, only if the 6 card suit sucks, and the 4 card suit is another major.

[whereagles]

Partner knows I open all 1-suiters in ♠ directly, so this shows a 2-suiter in ♠.

agree, though I'm not sure I'd be so frisky as to bid here :)

[kenrexford]

I'd open 1♠, myself, but I think that I am being sick when I do that.

 

That said, I have to agree that any action after passing initially must show a two-suiter with terrible spades, IMO.

 

I might open 1♣ a lot, actually.

[skjaeran]

I'd open this 1♣, playing with my regular partner. If that's no option I pass.

 

After opening 1♣ I'll back in with 4♠.

Having passed originally this is much tougher. I'd probably still come alive with 4♠, but passing is (much) closer now.

[Cascade]

I open 1♣.

 

I can't bring myself to bid this spade suit at the four-level.