Guest Jlall Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Had a good B/I hand tonight, as usual adv/exp hide answers. [hv=n=sa94haq4dkt98ckqj&s=sk52h875d52c97632]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] You get to 3N as south. I guess I have to admit the auction was 1D p 1N p 3N. This is not a hand about bidding so no comments on that please, you are here in 3N and you have to make. The lead is the H3 playing 4th best. Plan your play. edit: edited the diamond spots a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocdelevat Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 tough one for me. I see 8 tricks the nine one more of gambling for me than reading opps cards. So my play is pick the heart with q and play the clubs till opps put the ace. if return heart I take with ace and continue the remaining clubs in hand then go to dummy with a spade and play the rest of clubs. Till here I do not see a problem but from here is difficult. First I thought to play the last heart and let the opp to lead but too many bad things can happen:1. opp may have 5 hearts so im down in that case(3hearts a diamond and a club)2.opp may lead spade and Im down too.So the only chance to make is to lead towards king diamond and hope the opp has the ace and no heart to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Yeah, just about the only lines I see is to play for 4/3 heart break with K♥ and A♦ in the west hand or else duck first round of ♥ (and maybe first round of ♠) and hope that you can throw RHO in and have him break the diamonds while ♥ are still stopped to give you K♦ no matter where A♦ is and possibly score 2♦ tricks if ♦ are lead at trick 2. I think I should duck in case A♣ is with RHO and so is 2♥ in a 5/2 break. Now if RHO returns ♠ I can duck once and win the return on board (Q♥ if hearts) and drive out the A♣ while still having the K♠ entry and then exit a low diamond. I think this may pick up some of the times when RHO is 3244 or 3253 or 2254 or what not. And I don't think it loses much to any of the lines above where the first one wins. But maybe I'm over thinking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Don't see how we're making this unless clubs are 3-2, LHO has 5 hearts to king, and RHO has ace and another top diamond plus QJxx of spades. If that's the layout, RHO will come down to something like QJ, ---, AHx, --- after 2 hearts, 5 clubs and 2 top spades and we can throw him in in spades. That's a lot to ask and not exactly B/I. Must be missing something. Good problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 bump. Any words on this one? I'm still unsure what the right line was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnszsun Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 I think the key is to protect ♠K as entry to cash ♣s (♣s are blocked if we are careful).For that reason, we can't duck first ♥. If you do so, defence could start to attack ♠s. Then your ♠ entry is gone before ♣s are unblocked.♥Q, ♣s to force out A, win opps' return in dummy, cash remaining ♣ honors, ♠K to hand, 2 more ♣s, and a ♦ to K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Like cnszsun's line n x better than mine. LHO can have 4 hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Yes, Michael Sun correctly deduced why I posted this. The key is to NOT duck the first heart as the opps can hurt you with a spade back, win CA, and play another spade while clubs are blocked. So you must play the HQ first, drive out the CA, and hope for the DA onside. I must admit I almost insta lowed at trick 1 before stopping myself, guess that's why we're advised to think at trick 1 :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 I hate reading through a problem and not "seeing" anything. It must mean I'm missing something pretty basic. I can really only see 1 way to come to 9 tricks:2 spades2 hearts1 diamond4 clubs For this to work, I need teh K♥ in West, A♦ in west, and clubs 3-2 (or 4-1 with the 10 singleton) and hearts are 4-3. The immediate problem I see is tha tI only have one entry to my hand, ever (K♠). (The diamond holding looks like it might give better than 50% chance for 2 tricks, if I could lead up to it enough times. Unfortunately, I have entry problems. I also have tempo problems - opponents may be able to take 2 hearts, 2 diamonds and a club before I can establish 2 diamonds) So I play:Q♥ (1)K♣ (2)Q♣ (3)J♣, losing to the AWin return, likely A♥ (4)K♠ (5)♣ (6)♣ (7)♦, losing to the A by Wlose ♥ to Wlose ♥ to WWest must now lead ♦ to my K, or ♠ to my A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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