655321 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=st2hkj8d8642c9874]133|100|Scoring: IMPP-1♠-P-PX-P-P-?[/hv]Playing 4 card majors, English style, partner opens 1♠ in second seat, vulnerable vs not.What do you do now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Pretty sick. I redouble, since I am semi-flexible about running to hearts. I'd rather not play a 4-2 fit, and in this situation, I would say that this is very likely to be the case. What NT range does this "English style" employ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Let's just believe opps' (first) penalty double. XX and pass throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 What NT range does this "English style" employ?Good question :P I think it is 14-16, but am not sure. I guess we can assume 14-16 while I try to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I was asked but I'm not sure, the pair concerned are not a regular partnership so I can't tell you what they usually play. In their usual partnerships one plays 14-16 and the other 12-14; if I had to guess I would say the 12-14 player is more likely to triumph in any system discussion. Definitely 4-card majors, though, as already disclosed, and will often open the major with two 4-card suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Pard has 5 spades or 4 and a 15-17 hand. Would prefer to play 1NT/2m in the 2nd case, but that means trouble if he's got 5 spades and a min. Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I will XX in a 4 card major system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Here I think it's pretty clear to redouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finally17 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Let's just believe opps' (first) penalty double. XX and pass throughout. this and a prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted February 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 This hand was from the Yeh brothers tournament. [hv=d=w&v=n&n=skj986ht94dkj5ca3&w=sah7652dat97cqt62&e=sq7543haq3dq3ckj5&s=st2hkj8d8642c9874]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] At the table, South agreed with the majority and redoubled, but today the cards were not so kind. 4 rounds of bidding later, NS finished in 2♦X going for 800. http://web04.bridgebase.com/vug/0_8_2008%2...alify%20R10.lin Thanks to those who responded, and thanks to Frances for answering the system question. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 another argument for opening weak NT's on all 5332's! 1NT-2♠-... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 another argument for opening weak NT's on all 5332's! 1NT-2♠-... :P Haha. At these colors, I think E has an obvious pass over 1NT (12-14). But even I'm not going for 800 in 1NT undoubled :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 doh missed the colors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Have I misunderstood, or have two people just suggested that at some vulnerabilities one should overcall 2S over 1NT on Q7543 AQ3 Q3 KJ5 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Have I misunderstood, or have two people just suggested that at some vulnerabilities one should overcall 2S over 1NT on Q7543 AQ3 Q3 KJ5 ? I would not overcall 2♠ at any colors. Sorry if this wasn't clear; I meant that at these colors, it is obvious, not just obvious :P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 ok that was a stupid comment. but add a few spots here and there to east's spades (making his hand a pass over 1♠-x-p) and then my argument becomes (at least somewhat) valid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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