How much this hand worth?

[cnszsun]

[hv=d=w&v=b&s=sakqxxxhxxdkxcqxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP

ps-ps-ps-1♠

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Your call now, or would you open 1NT?

 

Edit: missing a spade, corrected.

[P_Marlowe]

A card is missing.

 

Assuming I have a 5332 shape,

I would go with 1NT.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[whereagles]

Borderline between 2♠ and 3♠ now. Since it's V, I'll go with 3.

[Guest Jlall]

1 then 2 is normal.

[Finch]

1 then 2 is normal.

Playing some form of sexy method I show this as a 2.5 spade rebid.

[jtfanclub]

1 then 2 is normal.

Playing some form of sexy method I show this as a 2.5 spade rebid.

In Precision as I learned it this is a 3 spade rebid.

 

Do Not Try This At Home! (if you play SAYC at home).

[kenrexford]

I know that this might be an extreme, minority position, but I might well have opted to open this hand 1NT.

 

Having opted 1♠, I think I am obliged to low-ball 2♠ and hope that all is well in the world.

[skjaeran]

This hand is worth 2.5♠, so that's my rebid (2♥ in my methods). B)

[brianshark]

I think it's worth 3♠, just about.

[cnszsun]

1 then 2 is normal.

If 2♠ is normal with this hand, should partner make a game try holding 2 Aces and doubleton ♠?

[cherdano]

1 then 2 is normal.

If 2♠ is normal with this hand, should partner make a game try holding 2 Aces and doubleton ♠?

Only if one of the aces is the club ace.

[cnszsun]

1 then 2 is normal.

If 2♠ is normal with this hand, should partner make a game try holding 2 Aces and doubleton ♠?

Only if one of the aces is the club ace.

Haha, he will be genius if he knows which aces we need.

[cherdano]

To be a little more serious, if you bid 2♠ with a hand like this you will occasionally miss a good game, but if you bid 3♠ you will get too a bad game too often (say the 2♠ bidders, and I agree). Even if partner has both minor suit aces it is not a huge disaster to miss this game, you need a finesse and a 3-2 break, which is 34% - of course, you also sometimes make on a club lead away from the king, but if this is really the best game we miss by bidding 2♠, I won't lose sleep over it. (If he has ♥A and ♣A it is obviously worse.)

[Guest Jlall]

1 then 2 is normal.

If 2♠ is normal with this hand, should partner make a game try holding 2 Aces and doubleton ♠?

No, why would we want to be in game opposite 2 aces and a doubleton spade? That is a good example of why 3S will get us too high too often, he'll bid over 3S with less than that for sure.

[matmat]

I'd never touch 1N with this hand, it's too good.

 

I might open 2♠, if i have that method discussed in the partnership.

[Cascade]

2♠.

 

If partner doesn't move which is very likely then he will need a super hand for us to make game.

 

On the other hand if I bid 3♠ now I will often be writing in a minus score.

[the hog]

This hand is worth 2.5♠, so that's my rebid (2♥ in my methods). :)

Quick question Harald. 2H in your system is a t/f to S. What is 2S? T/f to C or a weaker hand with S? If the latter, how do you bid Cs?

[benlessard]

Clear 2S for me ill bid 2C before bidding 3S.

[skjaeran]

This hand is worth 2.5♠, so that's my rebid (2♥ in my methods). :)

Quick question Harald. 2H in your system is a t/f to S. What is 2S? T/f to C or a weaker hand with S? If the latter, how do you bid Cs?

2♠ is a weaker hand with spades. Actually we don't bid clubs unless we can jump to 3♣ showing 55 inv. I'd prefer to have a 2♦ opening for 11-15 5♠ 4-5♣, but my regular partner won't.

 

So with a weak 5-4 we have to pass 1NT and with 5224 we open 1NT if in range (14+-17). 11-13(14) with 5-5 we open 1♣.