skjaeran Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 1. 1♠2. 3♣* *3NT is not an option unless partner forgot to open with AAA or some AA-K combination. Roland or a 10xx A A combination. or a xxxx A A combo. Note also that pard will PULL 3NT without 2 aces, so it's a fairly safe bid, the only risk being going 1 down in 4♣. Some people play 3N in 3/4 seat cannot be pulled. That is how I play. When I play Gambling 3N, this is how I play it as well. The restriction on no A/K is only in 1/2. Me too. I'd not be happy seeing partner pull when I've got 9 tricks on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Preempt: W00t? Why don't you open 2C with 9 tricks? Oh I forgot, on the forum you need at least 11 top tricks to open 2C. ;) :P :D :) :) :angry: :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 no. yes. probably 3♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroG Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Preempt: W00t? Why don't you open 2C with 9 tricks? Oh I forgot, on the forum you need at least 11 top tricks to open 2C. Han, sorry I can't see the 9 tricks... I usually count loser's to open my 2C, and this one have 6 losers, so I was counting it has 7 tricks... But maybe wrong definition of tricks. Pedro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I'll add smillies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Add me to: 1. Yes2. 3♣ Also, add me to "Bid 3NT if two Aces." I would go further, though. In that fourth suit, I don't need xxxx, or Jxx, or Qx, or anything. I just need two side Aces. I'm not going to fuss about "What if?" in this situation. The opponents need to find that lead, and the suit not block, and the suit provide 5 tricks, and partner not have a critical card, for 3NT to be wrong. Plus, with my hand hidden, it is not even clear that they will cash the suit out just because they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 1. Open 1♠, and I am viewed by my partners as a conservative bidder ;) I don't like opening (I am a conservative bidder) but I hate passing even more. 2. 3♣. And I strenuously disagree with the notion that one can open 3N and partner is to pull with fewer than 2 Aces. I think it is standard to open 3N in 4th chair with an expectation of making it opposite a random 8 count. Yes, I know 2 Aces = 8 hcp, but I said 'random' B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I'd pass hand 1. What do you expect partner to do with ♠xx ♥Kx ♦AKxxx ♣Kxxx? Where would you expect to end up, and how do you like your chances? Unlucky not to have a major suit fit? I suppose. But when this happens and you open the bidding, you're never getting a good score. When partner has a nice fit and you start with pass, you could still easily get to game (in my experience missing a game this way is very rare). Hand 2 is a clear opening bid in any seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Adam, what is the chance of partner having (1) a gameforce, (2) no major suit fit, (3) we can't make 3NT and (4) we wouldn't get too high anyway after a pass. Is this chance higher or lower than the chance that getting in immediate (1) leads us to a good game or slam that we might not find otherwise, (2) lets us win the partscore battle (3) prevents the opponents from finding their game, based on either power or a big minor suit fit. The best case obviously happens when we quickly bid to a making 4M while the opponents don't find their big fit and miss a making 5m. Don't tell me that this never happens in your experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Adam, what is the chance of partner having (1) a gameforce, (2) no major suit fit, (3) we can't make 3NT and (4) we wouldn't get too high anyway after a pass. Is this chance higher or lower than the chance that getting in immediate (1) leads us to a good game or slam that we might not find otherwise, (2) lets us win the partscore battle (3) prevents the opponents from finding their game, based on either power or a big minor suit fit. The best case obviously happens when we quickly bid to a making 4M while the opponents don't find their big fit and miss a making 5m. Don't tell me that this never happens in your experience. !H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Clear opening on 1, clear 3C on 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 I wish BWS was clearer much clearer on what is an opening one level bid in all seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 I'm passing #1 2nd seat then getting way too aggressive later to go for a number to make up for it. Opening #2, probably at 3C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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