Poll: open or not

[Ai Hao]

Do you open or not?

 

1. in 2nd seat, non-vulnerable vs vulnerable. RHO passed, Your hand:

 

♠AKxxx

♥Q10xxx

♦x

♣Jx

 

 

2. in 4th seat, non-vulnerable vs vulnerable, after 3 passes, your hand:

 

♠QJ

♥x

♦xxx

♣AKQ10xxx

[TylerE]

Both are clearcut openings to me at any form of scoring and vuln.

[whereagles]

what he said

[hrothgar]

1. I consider hand 1 slightly too weak to open, however, my 2/1 GF opening style seems to be a lot more conservative than most. I am willing to pass and content that that I'll be in a good position to show my hand later in the auction.

 

2. Clear opening. The only question is what that opening should be

[andy_h]

Yes to both.

[PedroG]

Hand 1 : 10 HCP but that J is paper, 6 losers and a great shape, 2 quick tricks, this hand is for me a open, it meet most of my requirements to open would prefer to have that J on ♥ but then life isn't perfect is it...

 

Hand 2 : I'm not sure what I should open here, I don't want to bid 1♣ and find out that they had the ♥ partscore I can't open a intermediate 12-15, can can easy overbid my clubs, I don't know what to bid so probably would PASS.

 

Pedro

not a expert just beginner answer, should I put them in white too :P perhaps.

[Trinidad]

I (and my partners) would open hand 1 with 1♠, even if I have a gadget to show a weak hand with both majors (which I do).

 

I would pass hand 2. The reason?

 

My partner passed. Therefore, he will not have hand 1. If my partner cannot have hand 1, the odds for a positive score after opening 1♣ are very small.

 

If I could open hand 2 with a natural 2♣, I would consider it, but 1♣ will invite the opponents in to the action and 3♣ is a little too rich for me.

 

So, the bidding with hand 1 and 2 would go:

 

1♠-2♣;

2♥-3♣;

3♥-3♠;

4♠

 

Nice contract! :P

 

Rik

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

#1 I prefer to pass, but playing with an

unknown partner I will open

 

#2 yes, either 1C or 3C

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Guest Jlall]

I would open both.

[jtfanclub]

Hand 1 yes, hand 2 3♣.

 

That's a pretty typical 4th seat 3 bid for me.

[Ai Hao]

1,

 

Is Anyone considering the seating as a factor? I would open hand#1 in 3rd and 4th seat, maybe 1st seat as well.

 

2,

 

Is gambling 3nt an option?

 

btw, this is IMP game.

 

Terry

[whereagles]

>> Is gambling 3nt an option?

 

Sure, why not?

[Walddk]

1. 1♠

2. 3♣*

 

*3NT is not an option unless partner forgot to open with AAA or some AA-K combination.

 

Roland

[Ai Hao]

I couldnt agree more with Roland. 3♣ should be a perfect opening bid for hand 2.

 

The question is: if someone opens 3nt at 4th seat, what kind of hand s/he should have?

[Al_U_Card]

Yes to the first. Rule of 20, 2 quick tricks and a rebid.

 

On the second one.....ugh. Pass may be the last non-minus position....plus only 14 pearson points plus no major.....gambling 3NT if I needed a big score.

[pclayton]

1. Is borderline. I'd probably open because one of the suits is AKxxx

 

2. Definitely open. Looks like 3♣.

[skjaeran]

I'd open hand 1 1♠, but it's a minimum.

 

I'd open hand 2 3♣.

 

A 4th seat 3NT should have some solid or semi-solid suit with stoppers. A major suit is just as fine as a minor, btw.

[han]

1. 1♠

2. 3♣*

 

*3NT is not an option unless partner forgot to open with AAA or some AA-K combination.

 

Roland

or a 10xx A A combination.

[Guest Jlall]

1. 1♠

2. 3♣*

 

*3NT is not an option unless partner forgot to open with AAA or some AA-K combination.

 

Roland

or a 10xx A A combination.

or a xxxx A A combo.

[Cascade]

1. At favourable vulnerability I might open something a little worse than this with both majors. I am not entirely sure how this impacts on a 2/1 system but it seems to work for us. Of course there are occasional disasters but white on red the disasters don't cost too much and there are many small and big gains to offset the disasters.

 

2. Yes I open. We need slightly more to open 3♣ but I might upgrade otherwise 1♣ for me.

[whereagles]

1. 1♠

2. 3♣*

 

*3NT is not an option unless partner forgot to open with AAA or some AA-K combination.

 

Roland

or a 10xx A A combination.

or a xxxx A A combo.

Note also that pard will PULL 3NT without 2 aces, so it's a fairly safe bid, the only risk being going 1 down in 4♣.

[joker_gib]

1. 1♠

2. 3♣*

 

*3NT is not an option unless partner forgot to open with AAA or some AA-K combination.

 

Roland

Agree

[Guest Jlall]

1. 1♠

2. 3♣*

 

*3NT is not an option unless partner forgot to open with AAA or some AA-K combination.

 

Roland

or a 10xx A A combination.

or a xxxx A A combo.

Note also that pard will PULL 3NT without 2 aces, so it's a fairly safe bid, the only risk being going 1 down in 4♣.

Some people play 3N in 3/4 seat cannot be pulled. That is how I play.

[whereagles]

Some people play 3N in 3/4 seat cannot be pulled. That is how I play.

Fair enuff.. but not all play it like that, so what I said may still be a valid inference.

[pclayton]

1. 1♠

2. 3♣*

 

*3NT is not an option unless partner forgot to open with AAA or some AA-K combination.

 

Roland

or a 10xx A A combination.

or a xxxx A A combo.

Note also that pard will PULL 3NT without 2 aces, so it's a fairly safe bid, the only risk being going 1 down in 4♣.

Some people play 3N in 3/4 seat cannot be pulled. That is how I play.

When I play Gambling 3N, this is how I play it as well. The restriction on no A/K is only in 1/2.