PassedOut Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Just realized that you can see the faces in motion - the computer I used to do the test had no flash installed. So maybe there is still hope for me :) That makes a big difference! I missed that too at first, but noticed it before I submitted my first answer. I also did better on the last 10 than on the first 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zman102 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 10/20 not too good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJNeill Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 7 out of 20. Thanks,Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elianna Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 the Asian chick smiles before and after the smile and she's fake? I had no problems with her. :) I also did better on the last 10 than on the first 10. I did much worse on the last 10, mainly because I got bored. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Doesn't work in Safari, for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Not clear to me what a "fake smile" means - if I'm really sad/scared/angry AND have negative emotions towards the one with whom I have eye contact I suppose it's fake, but what if only one of the two conditions is fulfilled? What if one or both of the conditions is partially fulfilled? They write on the site that one can distinguish between automatic and controlled smiles, but almost all smiles are a combination of both. Besides, one can probably get so used to displaying fake emotions that it becomes automatic in certain situations. Is it still fake, then? If everyone knows that I'm supposed to smile in a particular situation, my smile does not convey any information so it can hardly be "fake". This is the usual fallacy of dichotomization. It would be better to ask how controlled the smiles are, how happy the person is, and how positive his emotions towards his eye-contact partner are, each on a scale from 0 to 100 or such. And even if one can define it theoretically, how are the "correct" answers obtained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 15 out of 20, I was much more successful than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 couldn't they have done the videos with chimps or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I got 14. I also did the second test with the faces. I found these questions quite hard except for the face which was most attractive. Somehow that one was easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I got 12 but I think I was getting better, I got 3 of the first 7 then 9 of the last 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Not clear to me what a "fake smile" means - if I'm really sad/scared/angry AND have negative emotions towards the one with whom I have eye contact I suppose it's fake, but what if only one of the two conditions is fulfilled? What if one or both of the conditions is partially fulfilled? They write on the site that one can distinguish between automatic and controlled smiles, but almost all smiles are a combination of both. Besides, one can probably get so used to displaying fake emotions that it becomes automatic in certain situations. Is it still fake, then? If everyone knows that I'm supposed to smile in a particular situation, my smile does not convey any information so it can hardly be "fake". This is the usual fallacy of dichotomization. It would be better to ask how controlled the smiles are, how happy the person is, and how positive his emotions towards his eye-contact partner are, each on a scale from 0 to 100 or such. And even if one can define it theoretically, how are the "correct" answers obtained? Do you know what a buzzkill is? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphastrup Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I got 15/20. The five I missed were 3,4,5,7 and 8 :P (<--- fake or genuine smiley?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finally17 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Not clear to me what a "fake smile" means - if I'm really sad/scared/angry AND have negative emotions towards the one with whom I have eye contact I suppose it's fake, but what if only one of the two conditions is fulfilled? What if one or both of the conditions is partially fulfilled? They write on the site that one can distinguish between automatic and controlled smiles, but almost all smiles are a combination of both. Besides, one can probably get so used to displaying fake emotions that it becomes automatic in certain situations. Is it still fake, then? If everyone knows that I'm supposed to smile in a particular situation, my smile does not convey any information so it can hardly be "fake". This is the usual fallacy of dichotomization. It would be better to ask how controlled the smiles are, how happy the person is, and how positive his emotions towards his eye-contact partner are, each on a scale from 0 to 100 or such. And even if one can define it theoretically, how are the "correct" answers obtained? Why can't it be as simple as 1) told to smile on cue, as opposed to 2) told something humorous that elicits a smile? We've certainly all experienced both of these. There's no reason they can't try four or five things until they get an uncontrolled smile and use the tape of that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Why can't it be as simple as 1) told to smile on cue, as opposed to 2) told something humorous that elicits a smile? We've certainly all experienced both of these. There's no reason they can't try four or five things until they get an uncontrolled smile and use the tape of that one. How do we know they weren't just being polite to laugh (or smile) at the supposedly humorous material? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Why can't it be as simple as 1) told to smile on cue, as opposed to 2) told something humorous that elicits a smile? We've certainly all experienced both of these. That's certainly a good idea but then I would much prefer to have the question phrased as such, and not something involving the vague term of a "fake" smile. There's no reason they can't try four or five things until they get an uncontrolled smile and use the tape of that one.This wouldn't work because it would involve the subjective judgement of the recorder of whether the smile was controlled or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 the Asian chick smiles before and after the smile and she's fake? I had no problems with her. :) I also did better on the last 10 than on the first 10. I did much worse on the last 10, mainly because I got bored. :) I got 10/20, wich shows how ingenue I am. But I guessed right 5/5 from the last ones!. So maybe on the ned I had learned... (or most likelly pure luck). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Wow! 18/20, missed 2 fake smiles. The fake smile has less sparkling eyes and it stops too sudden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finally17 Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 There's no reason they can't try four or five things until they get an uncontrolled smile and use the tape of that one.This wouldn't work because it would involve the subjective judgement of the recorder of whether the smile was controlled or not. Sure it would. You tell them to smile and record that. Then you try 4 or 5 jokes telling them only to smile if they mean it. No judgement. If I don't find something funny (amusing, makes me happy, whatever) I don't smile unless there's some kind of social expectation to...I'm rather certain that that's how most people are. Whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 13/20, and I was fearful that I wouldn't get above single digits. Maybe not so long ago I wouldn't have. I'm getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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