MickyB Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 [hv=d=e&v=e&s=sa8xxxhkxxxdjxxcx]133|100|Scoring: IMP2♠ on your right, passed round to partner who doubles. Pard is an England international who you've only played with once before, you agreed Leb during a brief system discussion.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Yeah, I would pass this.Not sure if I'd go for ruffs or a forcing defence (♥K lead). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I bid 3♥ (showing values) I think this is close, perhaps pass is better.Pass will get a range of scores from +800 (or more) to -670 (or more) :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catch22 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I bid 3♥ I don't think this is close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I bid 3♥ I don't think this is close me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 3♥. AT-5th is probably my minimum for converting here. I understand Harald's desire for a tap, but we don't have a great tap suit and its not clear we'll have tricks to cash after the tap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 3♥ I have had bitter experience in trying for penalties with this sort of hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Convert for penalties must be clearly best guess, as it is so unilateral. Here 4H isn't even unlikely. Besides may get higher bonanza vs foolish competing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 3♥ for me. I like to penalty pass slightly more than average, but I won't do it without the spots. My experiences from trying this are pretty bad. Too often, we set them 1 when we have a cold 4♥ (even 6♥), or we don't set them at all. If you forced me to defend, I would probably belt out the ♥K to take a look and decide from there. It seems very probable that trying for club ruffs is the best defense, depending on how weak dummy is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I don't like playing for penalties at all unless RHO is a maniac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Where is my 9 of S ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 3♥ seems nice here. Note that pard is very short on spades, so he might be a tad light (in which case 2♠X+1 is quite possible!!!!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 No way I'm passing. I learned the hard way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 This was from a county KO match against a strong team, my counterpart passed and collected 800 opposite x Axx AKxxx AKxx while I was in 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Early in a team match? Convert to penalties, hoping to score 500 v our partial. Even 200 puts the fear of crackling in opponents hearts. That's appealing! Hope partner has S10+, as this X is against S-KQJ109 and need S8 to score.Adverse (double?) game swing seems too far afield; unlikely but loses match now. Convert appeals, but it's 'all-in' on this one hand. I don't, but would be taken aback if opponents did and won 200/500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I can't see myself passing. I have a fairly offensive hand much more suited to declaring that defending. You were unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 This was from a county KO match against a strong team, my counterpart passed and collected 800 opposite x Axx AKxxx AKxx while I was in 4♥. Don't worry about it one hand proves nothing. It gets worse than this 18 months or so ago my opponent with my cards sat for a double of 2♥ with ♥ Q632. The 2♥ bidder was not vulnerable and she was vulnerable. At the other table with those cards I explored for a fit and eventually ended in 3NT. 2♥ was down two and I had no play for 3NT with our combined 25 or 26 hcp. This was in a knockout match that we lost at the end of this set by 1 IMP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Hi, 3H. The main issue is not that you onlyhave Axxxx, but that you have fit forpartner, i.e. you may beat 2S, but you may have slam your way. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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