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[Apollo81]

all white imps

 

Qxx

AQ10

Jxxx

Qxx

 

(1s)-p-(1n)-2h

(p)-?

 

You're playing that 2♠ is a limit raise, 2NT is natural/invitational, and 3♦ shows a good raise to 3♥. I think those are the only options here.

[655321]

I will make one of my 2 bids to show an invitational hand with heart support.

3♦ or 2♠.   Does one of these bids show 3 card support only? If so, that is the one I choose.

[rogerclee]

3♦ for me. The fact that partner is coming in with KJ empty means he probably has a pretty reasonable hand, though.

[mike777]

I will try 2nt but.....

 

hmm what does 3d show? something just barely under a limit raise?

[Apollo81]

I will try 2nt but.....

 

hmm what does 3d show? something just barely under a limit raise?

 

yes, a hand that would normally raise to 3h but is really close to a LR

[han]

3D, seems clear.

[andy_h]

call me a wuss, but I think I prefer the 3H raise. Qxx spades could be ok or really bad, since 1S opener is on lead and spades could be 5332 around. 4333 shape also puts me off.

But given OP says the only options we have are 2S, 2NT and 3D, then I will opt for 3D.

[han]

Yes, this is a terrible terrible 11-count, that's why we bid 3D and not 2S I believe.

[Guest Jlall]

good system, bid 3D and utilize it.

[the hog]

3♦ for me. The fact that partner is coming in with KJ empty means he probably has a pretty reasonable hand, though.

2S for me.

If pd has a reasonable hand she will bid 4 anyway or make a try. Wtp?

[P_Marlowe]

I guess I would bid 3D, 2S sounds stronger, and I want to

encourage partner, but dont want to get him nuts.

 

Given that he was in a prebal. situation, 2H needs to be

based on full values, a good weak two type hand will be

enough.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Cascade]

I am not entirely sure of the intended subtleties of 3♦ I will just make a normal limit raise with 2♠ and reserve 3♦ for something a little weaker.

[whereagles]

You're playing that 2♠ is a limit raise, 2NT is natural/invitational, and 3♦ shows a good raise to 3♥. I think those are the only options here.

You forgot pass.

 

Anyway, I'll bid a simple 3♥ if opps are the sort of pair who opens on 10 hcp and responds on 3. Opposite solid bidders I'll just pass.

[Apollo81]

Partner's hand is Jx J9xxxx Ax AKx

 

He will clearly accept a limit raise, but should he bid game after the 3♦ bid?

[rogerclee]

Partner's hand is Jx J9xxxx Ax AKx

 

He will clearly accept a limit raise, but should he bid game after the 3♦ bid?

I wouldn't.

[mikestar]

I am really drawn to 2NT. This might get us to a making 3NT when 9 tricks are the limit in hearts. On partner's actual hand, he will bid 3♥ on his crappy six bagger and I will pass. If he shows a 2-suiter I go to 4♥.

 

This is based on my assumption that 2♥ is not a prebalance on this non-fit sequence. If we do prebalance in this sequence, put me down for 3♦.

[Cascade]

Partner's hand is Jx J9xxxx Ax AKx

 

He will clearly accept a limit raise, but should he bid game after the 3♦ bid?

I wouldn't.

Me neither.

[Apollo81]

I am really drawn to 2NT. This might get us to a making 3NT when 9 tricks are the limit in hearts. On partner's actual hand, he will bid 3♥ on his crappy six bagger and I will pass.

I guarantee he would have bid 3NT over 2NT.

[655321]

Partner's hand is Jx J9xxxx Ax AKx

 

He will clearly accept a limit raise, but should he bid game after the 3♦ bid?

I am not a fan of these methods.

 

Partner has made a 2 level overcall, and can be expected to have a decent hand.

We are playing IMPS, and don't need to conduct delicate auctions looking for a reason to stay out of game. I would rather use one of the bids (the cue or the transfer) to show an invitation with 4 card support, rather than have one bid show a slightly better raise than the other.

 

For hands on the margins, whether game makes or not depends on how the hands fit, exactly which cards are held, and subtle differences in raises do not help the overcaller judge.

[Finch]

What's the difference between a 'limit raise' and a 'good raise' this all seems a bit too subtle for me?

[Apollo81]

What's the difference between a 'limit raise' and a 'good raise' this all seems a bit too subtle for me?

A limit raise is a limit raise.

 

A "good raise" is one that is less than a limit raise, but is based on values rather than being mainly a preemptive move. I would want to raise that 2♥ overcall with a 5-count with 4 trumps just to make my LHO's life difficult, but I wouldn't want partner bidding game over that even with some extras. But for the same 3♥ raise normally I might also have a hand that was just shy of a limit raise where I wouldn't mind if pard bid game. This is to distinguish these hands.