pclayton Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Maybe I'm having a slow moment, but someone explain to me how a 4th club yields an extra trump trick with partner holding anything other than AJ tight (J9 for example)? AJ and possibly when pard has J9x on a pseudo-promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Look, its from a book. A club simply has to be right :) Not "from" "for" a book. Read the 2nd post of the thread. And its your signature that says you seldom read past the opening post. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambolino Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 agree with heart. if pd wanted a promotion, he could've dropped his red ace (if he had one, and didn't have ♥Q) and then play 3rd ♣. that makes it down two so i doubt that's the case but i find that an important concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 agree with heart. if pd wanted a promotion, he could've dropped his red ace (if he had one, and didn't have ♥Q) and then play 3rd ♣. that makes it down two so i doubt that's the case but i find that an important concept. Suppose partner doesn't hold a red ace? Certainly, if partner holds the AJ doubleton of spades and no red ace, the only way to defeat 3♠ is by playing the fourth round of clubs (assuming declarer does not misguess the spade suit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Pard can't have 3♠s. Pard needs exactly AJ for a true trump promotion and exactly J9 for a pseudo-trump promotion if declarer finesses (which he probably will) but on any other holding, this line seems futile. If this were at the table, we'd all have returned a heart within a few seconds. It's only because it's a book problem we're considering the trump promotion. I hate problems like these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I really think playing pard for a strong heart holding is playing partner to have made a mistake at T1. If you want to go passive and try for two additional tricks thats a different matter, but it's very reasonable. RHO has 12-14, we have 6 and LHO has 8, That leaves 8-10 for pard (after the ♣A) so there's room for 2 aces or an A / KQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 If you play obvious switch then partner encourages on the opening lead for a heart and discourages for a diamond. The OS suit is diamonds, but that doesn't mean an encouraging club would call for a heart. The only way to get a heart shift playing OS is for pard to play an unusual club spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I really think playing pard for a strong heart holding is playing partner to have made a mistake at T1. Why is that? If partner has ♣A and ♥AQ, he knows we are only beating this if three clubs are cashing. If he discourages at trick one, how can he know we are going to switch to hearts rather than spades? Edit: oops I missed this was a weak NT. Hmm will rethink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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