pclayton Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 1♥ (3♣) - pass (pass)x (pass) - 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 yes because 3♥ directly would be constructive, this is a destructive hand that was short of bidding 3/4♥ before. See the recent appeal hand :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 No, I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 yes because 3♥ directly would be constructive, this is a destructive hand that was short of bidding 3/4♥ before. See the recent appeal hand :P Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 yes because 3♥ directly would be constructive, this is a destructive hand that was short of bidding 3/4♥ before. See the recent appeal hand :P Exactly. Both 3♥ and 4♥ are constructive on the previous round so this is a weak distributional hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 No, this auction does not exists. And there is at least one big difference to the apealshand. One may or may not pass over a 3H bid witha weak responding hand with spade supportfor opener with the intention to bid 4S over 4H. Because for what ever reasons, one does not want to defend against a partial, but one isprepared to defend against an enemy game.Going slow will tell you, if they bid game withthe intention to make.In the current auction, the opponents wantedto play 3C nothing more.The only sense I can make of 4H is, that the guy wants to get douled, because he is sure he can make 4H, ... it is a pity that opener reopened. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 definitely exists, for Gerben's reasons. That said, many people overuse it methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Yes, I don't think you're forced to compete to 3h with a mediocre hand with ♥Hxx and ♦xxx or something, but once partner shows short diamonds, you may well upgrade it. I suppose you can even have 4 hearts, like others have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Sure this exist. For reasons mentione by other posters above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Not for me. Ill bid 3H almost everytime i would have raise 1H to 2H if RHO would have passed. 5 trumps & a stiff is enough to make a move even without hcp. This doesnt set any forcing pass so if partner X 4C he is on his own. If they bid 5C and partner X and they make it ill apologize. PS with 5 trumps and 5332 shape ill pass and bid 3H after the X. So the 4H bid in the auction show 5 trumps and a stiff wich is a hand i would clearly bid 3H before the X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 If it happened, then the auction exists. Whether it should exist is a question for you, your partner, and 10-12 people who troll bridge forums, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I've had the auction 1♥-3♣-2♣-2♦* *a partner with a diamond suit who has faith in pd's jump overcall more than RHO's bid. so there exist all kinds of sequences :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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