skjaeran Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Clear 2♠ IMO. Not close to reversing values. 2♠ isn't perfect, but it's clearly better than the alternative(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Clear 2♠ for me playing 2/1 or SAYC. Not happy about it, this sort of hand makes me think "why the hell am I not playing Precision?" (in which 2♥ is obvious). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 not a reverse hand, so 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I'm the biggest overbidder of the world but I want to bid 2♥ here. I learned that 2♠ with 3 is only good on minimum hands - I know it's not std, but that's what I'm used to and all. I don't understand this. P will expect 4-card support. It is nice to have something to compensate for your disappointing 3-card spades. I suppose the theory is that with a 3154, with a minimum you raise immediately so raising via 2♣ would show extras. But with this hand I don't really see any alternative to 2♠. Agree that the hand is very strong for that bid, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 This is a minimum hand as in..not close to reverse strength :unsure: What, in your opinion, is a minimum 2♥ vote with 3-4-1-5 distribution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 2♠ if that's ok in your partnership, else either 2♣ or 2♥ are ok. A tad light for the reverse, but the excellent shape and concentration of honors in the main suits compensates for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finally17 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 just because, and days late, i'll join the 2S WTP camp. i am not at all a huge fan of raising on 3 card support, but the hand seems ideal to me for that...one trump honor would be nice, but more than that and partner could end up having to ruff diamonds with trump honors. as for raising to the 3 level on 3 card support, I can only think of one hand in recent memory that i felt warranted that. i held something like JTx x AKQTx AT9x. 2C seems like an extreme underbid, 3C an equally extreme overbid...whereas I want to be in 4S on the vast majority of hands partner has 5 trumps or 4 quality trumps. of course, someone who shall remain nameless (ahem, MM), but has been posting in this thread, was kibitzing and immediately called my 3S bid insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Good call by the nameless, 3S is insane on that hand and 2C is normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Good call by the nameless, 3S is insane on that hand and 2C is normal. heh. han avoided using my name and "normal" in the same sentence. typical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 It was you? I take it back, bad call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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