Fluffy Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 [hv=d=n&v=n&n=sj97xxxxhd10xxcqxx&s=saq6ha8xxdkjxca9x]133|200|Scoring: IMP S - W - N - E - - - ps-2♥2NT-ps-3♥*-ps3♠-ps-4♠-psps-ps[/hv] Lead is ♥2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I like the spade finesse. If East has the ♣K I think we are down, so we need East to have a card (♠K, ♦A, ♦Q) to go along with his hearts. Stripping the hearts, pitching a ♦ and endplaying West with the ♠K still does not guarantee the contract - perhaps he can exit a ♣ away from the King; now, if we play 3 rounds of clubs East may be able to win, or if we run the ♦ten West wins the Q and plays another club. Taking the spade finesse makes when the K is onside, and also allows us to guess diamonds to make some of the time when East has a diamond card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 agree with ruff and hook a spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 agree with ruff and hook a spade. Agree. Don't commit to what you need to pitch until you test clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 There's an alternative line if West has the two black kings and only two trumps:ruff the leadtrump to the aceace of hearts (discarding a CLUB)heart rufftrump that end plays him. A club away from the king is fatal, so he's going to play a diamond. best defence (if East has the Q) is to led me win that with the jack, or to cover the 10 with the Queen and now I'm stuck unless East started with precisely Qx, because I can't stop East gaining the lead to play a club through. So it's not a very successful alternative unless West has everything - the SK, the CK and the DAQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 So it's not a very successful alternative unless West has everything - the SK, the CK and the DAQ yeah, playing for this seems really random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 There's an alternative line if West has the two black kings and only two trumps:ruff the leadtrump to the aceace of hearts (discarding a CLUB)heart rufftrump that end plays him. A club away from the king is fatal, so he's going to play a diamond. best defence (if East has the Q) is to led me win that with the jack, or to cover the 10 with the Queen and now I'm stuck unless East started with precisely Qx, because I can't stop East gaining the lead to play a club through. So it's not a very successful alternative unless West has everything - the SK, the CK and the DAQ I think it's better than you give it credit for. It's not easy for east to withhold the diamond queen when west leads one, plus if you happen to drop the spade king you have done the right thing outright aside from the later endplay chances. I haven't convinced myself it's better than the spade finesse, just that it's better than you thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fluffy Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 one declarer discarded a club, ruffed a heart, cashed spade ace, ruffed a heart and gave away the trump. [hv=n=sjxxxxxxhd10xxcqxx&w=skxhqxxdqxxxxckxx&e=sxhkj10xxxdaxcj10xx&s=saqxhaxxxdkjxca9x]399|300|[/hv] now a diamond to the ace, and east played another diamond, but he guessed right to endplay west again with ♦Q. with a spade finese you need a later guess in diamonds. Given that you cannot cope to ♠3-0 playing spade ace is just 'half' as good as the finese, I don't know if the endplay gain outwaights the loss or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Given that you cannot cope to ♠3-0 playing spade ace is just 'half' as good as the finese, I don't know if the endplay gain outwaights the loss or not. Its better than that as West is more likely to have two spades than East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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