gwnn Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 QxxxJxxxxxxxA Partner deals and opens 1♣. Opps pass. 1♣-1♥1♠-2♠4♣-4♠6♣-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I wonder if p might have been creative with something likeAKx-AKx-x-KQJxxx I seem to recall a poll where several forum experts rebid 1♠ with such a hand (assuming it is forcing). I think I pass. Looks silly if 6♣ is meant as a subtle GS try for spades, but it must be a natural bid. And I do have excellent clubs support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 1♠ was non forcing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Pass. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 partner has lost their fking mind but I guess you have to pass, you have the ace of clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 But on second thought, I can't see why it'd be better to play in clubs than spades. You aren't going to have pitches. Maybe if partner has AKJx --- Ax KQJTxxx or something....but what is 1S then lol. I am back to my original thinking, I guess I'll pass. Really this is insane by your partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 What can pards shape be? 1♠ is not forcing.Can he be 5=(0/1)=7with AK in spades and KQJ in Clubs? If so I think he would not bid 1♠ and risk that being passed out. He would jump shift to 2♠. So he is not 7-5-1-0Then what? 6-4-?-? Then he must have additional honors in the reds He bid slam not knowing about my Club ace? I dont understand the bidding. Normally I would think it better to play in 6♠ because of the 4-4 fit.Pard should expect us to have 4 Spades if we raised his 2nd bid. He is offering us a choice of slams? I think 6♠ is the right bid, because he can get discards on teh clubs, and we can ruff one or two if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 A clear no problem hand in the old days when you could hear how forceful that 6C bid was :unsure: Today however it is a complete new world and I wonder if bozo the blasting bidder is going to advance with 7C over my 6S at which point he will reach another grand in the big black suit. 1S is NF and if the guy has some 3 card suit I could care less as they will just have to hope S split. Justin is explains this is insanity, a diplomatic way of putting things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 6♣ offers a choice and I'll just bid 6♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I have no idea. Partner is insane. I have a club honor I didn't promise. Pass, since it sounds like partner invented his spade suit (seems as likely as anything else to spawn this ridiculous auction). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Maybe his hand is AKx -- Ax KQJxxxxx and he thought 1♠ was forcing. I've seen people play 1♠ here as forcing. Anyway I'd pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roupoil Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I don't understand the bidding, but I pass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I pass. I would never bid 1♠ on less than four myself (please withhold your sterling examples where all other bids suck), but at some point partner is simply on his own and I think we have reached that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I pass. I would never bid 1♠ on less than four myself (please withhold your sterling examples where all other bids suck), but at some point partner is simply on his own and I think we have reached that point. 100% agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I pass. I would never bid 1♠ on less than four myself (please withhold your sterling examples where all other bids suck), but at some point partner is simply on his own and I think we have reached that point. 100% agree. me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 glp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Partner is a lunatic. That much is clear. What does the lunatic have? Apparently our spade raise did a LOT for his hand. I expect a 4??8 hand for this bidding. I'm concerned that his han will get tapped twice and get shut off from the club suit. So I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I'm concerned that his han will get tapped twice I hope on the shoulder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I'm concerned that his han will get tapped twice I hope on the shoulder? ah... i need to go tap a keg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=e&s=saxhakdkckjt98xxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] 1♣-1♥1♠-2♠4♣-4♠6♣-6♠6NT-swish (!) Ace of diamonds lead.... pard confirmed after the hand that he knew 1♠ was nonforcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Wow, a doubleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Wow, a doubleton. And a slam force with a 4 loser hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 bah.. just open 2♣ and bid 5 afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I would have bid 6S. I still bid 6S even now after having seen partner's hand. Hopefully this will teach him to bid properly and not like a pusillanimous cretin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I actually don't blame him that much. The lack of a way to bid strong twos in US systems drives people to "fabricate" suits. But yeah, I agree his "solution" may rank high on imagination but scores zero on practicality. (What's wrong with a mild underbid of 3♣?? The suit isn't even that great.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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