Youre The Sub

[jillybean]

You are subbed into a game a to your dismay discover the1♠ has been placed on the table in front of you.

Your partner responded 2♦, what is your bid?

 

 

AQJxx, xx, Jxxx, Kx

[grrigg]

In this situation I would bid 3♦ as the least of evils. Many (most) play some sort of catch-all either rebidding 2M or 2NT but in this case partner might think 2♠ promises 6 and 2NT shows both other suit stoppers. I'd bid your shape and hope for the best.

 

Btw, whats wrong with 1♠? :huh:

[the hog]

Yes Katherine, whats wrong with 1S? With an unknown partner I think 3D is absolutely clear. (I have different agreements with normal pd).

[Codo]

2 Spade is absolute clear. :huh:

At least if my partner is from a civiliszed country like France, Poland or Germany. There "all" players know that this is the catch all bid and simply denies extra strength.

 

With partners from the wild west or some unkonown territories I will bid 3 Diamonds.

[Trysalot]

The first thing I would do is look at the posted convention card to see if the pair was playing 2/1 and P is making a game forcing bid.

 

From reading the brief information given, I am assuming the 1 spade bid was made in first seat. So, in my opinion, as to what's wrong with 1 spade, that is not an opening hand by any stretch of my imagination. Maybe the rest of you open hands like that in first seat but I never do. Therefore, if I was to see the posted card is 2/1 and can't see bidding this piece of cheese to game, I would not rebid my 5 card spade suit nor would I raise the diamond bid or bid 2NT in fear that P is going to continue bidding with a 13 pointer until we reach a game. I would rather risk the anger of P or the assumption I know nothing about the 2/1 system (LOL) and the resulting bad score if P has more than a minimum opening hand. Therefore my bid over 2 diamonds would be pass. (Running, ducking, and doing whatever I can to avoid your negative replies to my solution.)

[Trysalot]

P.S. Nothing was said as to whether this was a pairs game or an individual. If an individual I would assume sayc and bid one of the choices offered by the earlier posters.

[gwnn]

2♠ is perfectly obvious in any system - we don't have extras (to put it mildly, lol).

[655321]

The hand started well - we were dealt an opening hand with spades.

Things got better - partner made a 2/1 in our second suit!

Now we can let partner know the good news by bidding 3♦

[grrigg]

Trys: Regardless of your opening style passing over 2♦ is 100% wrong. If you think that partner has a minimum of 13HCP then you hold at least 24 points together. And you have a fit. But why should partner have the bare minimum?? He could have more, potentially much more. The worst thing that happens is you bid a slim game and 13 opposite 11 games do make quite often. People often bid games with less. You are aiming at an incredibly narrow target. You might hit it, but the chances are super slim.

[whereagles]

I would bid 2♠. Firmly believe it is technically wrong to support pard here because if you support on any hand with a fit, you can be supporting with as little as

 

AQJxx

xx

Jxxx

Kx

 

(add a jack if you want 12 hcp) or as much as

 

AKQJx

xx

Kxxx

Ax

[Roupoil]

With a French partner, 2♠ without hesitating. 3♦ would promise extras and be GF (of course, I assume here 2♦ is not GF itself).

[gwnn]

Trysalot, you shouldn't suggest pass. Pass is wrong. Pass is bad. Pass is evil. Pass should never come to anyone's mind... As a general rule, once you decided to sell your hand as a particular category, you cannot subsequently change that description. For example, if you open 1NT on Kx Qxx Jxx AKxxxx, you can't pass partner's stayman bid.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

2S is the safest bid you can make, but 3D

is certainly also a sensible bid.

After 2S Partner wont assume a 6 carder,

because you would bid 2S as well, if you would

hold the same hand, but with the minor suits

switched.

 

It would be different, if partner had bid 2C,

and you would hold 5 spades and 4 clubs,

because in this scenario, some partner may

expect 6 spades for a 2 S bid.

In this scenario I would raise.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[helene_t]

As Roland said, 2♠ with someone from a civilized country.

 

3♦ with someone from the Netherlands (I guess I'm feeling homesick). Well, 3♦ with someone from UK or Ireland also.

[skjaeran]

This depends entirely on agreements.

 

With some 3♦ is GF, 2NT (11)13-14 balanced and 2♠ a catch-all.

 

I've played 2♠ as catch-all, 2NT as GF with support and 3♦ as min with support.

 

And I've even played that 2♠ promised 6 with 2NT a catch-all - a method I'd say is unplayable. :unsure:

 

These methods can apply both in a 2/1 GF context and 2/1 10+.

 

Without agreements I'd expect the normal bid here to be 3♦. But in several environments that would be GF udiscussed.

[jillybean]

My p objected loudly to my 1♠ opening. Not that it matters, I was a sub.

 

I wasn’t sure how 2♠ would be understood so I bid 3♦. It is too easy to foster bad habits with pick up partners but harder to do the "right" thing when you know there is a good chance it will be misunderstood.

 

P held x,xxxx,AKQ10x,xxx

[whereagles]

shoot pard ^^