Apollo81 Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Axx---AKJxxxxKJx (2s)-? all red, IMPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 yuck... 3♦ is the bid, but I'm too afraid of missing a game, so I overcall 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I'm voting for a heavy 3♦. I just can't stand 5♦ vul which could easily drift off a few and could be doubled. Partner can see the colours so hopefully he'll not be shy to do something on a scattering of values, especially of LHO passes quickly. It helps if your overcalls are sound when vul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 3♦ is OK. I don't like 3NT - I'm not at all comfortable if partner bids 4♥ over it, eventhough I don't show a balance hand.4♦ would be leaping Michaels, but I don't like it if on this hand if natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I don't like 3NT - I'm not at all comfortable if partner bids 4♥ over it just pull to 5♦, wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I don't like 3NT - I'm not at all comfortable if partner bids 4♥ over it just pull to 5♦, wtp? Except that I rate my chances far better in 3NT than 5♦? - no problem at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 3 diamonds, I play solid overcalls vs preempt for this kind of hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I see 4D included as an option, if my system allowed it I would love that (though I always play leaping michaels). If 4D is not available I would bid 3S stopper ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I see 4D included as an option, if my system allowed it I would love that (though I always play leaping michaels). If 4D is not available I would bid 3S stopper ask. so what of all the "oh no we went past our likeliest game" protests? is 5♦ more likely than 3NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I see 4D included as an option, if my system allowed it I would love that (though I always play leaping michaels). If 4D is not available I would bid 3S stopper ask. so what of all the "oh no we went past our likeliest game" protests? is 5♦ more likely than 3NT? Even if 3N is our most likely game (which is not clear to me at all, especially if you overcall 3N and maximize the chance of a heart lead), 3D to me is a huge underbid and you will play 3D a lot of the time you can make 3N. This hand is just too good for me to overcall 3D. Not to mention that we might miss 6D. If I have to get to our second best game to avoid playing in 3D or missing diamond slams, I'm willing to do that, and I think that 5D and 3N will be about as good on average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Heh I was the first one who voted 4D. It seems perfect if natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 If 3♦ is passed out, the chances that we missed game are not that great I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I don't like 3NT - I'm not at all comfortable if partner bids 4♥ over it just pull to 5♦, wtp? Except that I rate my chances far better in 3NT than 5♦? - no problem at all. I dunno what chances are in 5♦ as compared to 3NT, but I sure think chances in 5♦ are better than those in 4♥ :) ;) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 If 3♦ is passed out, the chances that we missed game are not that great I think. hum... I don't know. Pard is likely to pass with a 7-8 count, which rates to be what he has, e.g. something like xKJxxxxxxQxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 4♦ looks obvious if you aren't playing LM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 4♦ looks obvious if you aren't playing LM. Probably, but nothing is perfect - you might have bypassed your only making game. The big upside for 4♦ is slam bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 To all the 4♦ bidders: pard now bids 4♥. Your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 To all the 4♦ bidders: pard now bids 4♥. Your call. I just read "Bridge in the menagerie" so I gonna hog the contract. 5♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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