han Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 [hv=d=s&n=skqxhkxxdaq9xxcxx&s=sajxxhqxdk10xxcj98]133|200|[/hv] What's your auction with these two hands? I'd prefer to see auctions where south opens 1D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 This is sort of reasonable: 1D - 2D2S - 3C3D - 3S4S - P With 2S stopper-showing but not promising extras, 3C asking for a stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 [hv=d=s&n=skqxhkxxdaq9xxcxx&s=sajxxhqxdk10xxcj98]133|200|South NorthPass 1♦ 1♠ 2♠ 4♠ Pass Sorry about starting with a pass by south. Life is full of disappointments. 11 hcp, 2 control points, 10 distibutional points, minus a point for Qx of hearts, comes to 22 ZAR points. I will open very light *with distribution*, but this is just a bit too light for me without it. Move the queen of hearts to diamonds, (♥xx ♦KQTx) and I would open. If you don't like the 4♠ bid, south could try something fancy like 2NT (if forcing) instead of 4♠, but double fit here gives 4♠ a reasonable chance and a 3♠ raise over 2♠ is a possibility. North with sound 2♠ raise will go on over 3♠ anyway. [/hv] But, i don't want you to be too disappointed, so here is an auction where south is, er, aggressive and opens 1♦ [hv=d=s&n=skqxhkxxdaq9xxcxx&s=sajxxhqxdk10xxcj98]133|200|South NorthPass 1♦ 1♠ 2♠ 4♠ Pass Sorry about starting with a pass by south. Life is full of disappointments. 11 hcp, 2 control points, 10 distibutional points, minus a point for Qx of hearts, comes to 22 ZAR points. I will open very light *with distribution*, but this is just a bit too light for me without it. Move the queen of hearts to diamonds, (♥xx ♦KQTx) and I would open. If you don't like the 4♠ bid, south could try something fancy like 2NT (if forcing) instead of 4♠, but double fit here gives 4♠ a reasonable chance and a 3♠ raise over 2♠ is a possibility. North with sound 2♠ raise will go on over 3♠ anyway. [/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 1NT (11-14) - 3NTNon-♣ lead, next board please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Please note: I would pass the South hand Here's my auction 1♦ - 2♦ (2♦ = inverted minor)2♠ - 3♦ (2♠ = stopper. 3♦ = denies club stopper)Pass 3♦ is non forcing and potentially a bit weak, however, I don't think that the hand is strong enough to force 5♦. If I were willing to play 3N opposite no Club stop, I probably would have suppressed the Diamond suit from the get go and simply blasted 3N directly over 1♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Sorry I don't really find any of the auctions that didn't reach 3NT reasonable. As far as I'm concerned south should not deny stoppers in any suit, since both his holdings combine with anything at all partner has to aid the stopper situation. Nor does he want to help his opponents who very likely will lead a spade, a heart from the ace, or a heart to the ace not being taken on the right. I guess they are reasonable as statements that "if we were to avoid 3NT, this would have to be the way" but they are not my idea of winning bridge by any means. The closest is Inquiry's first auction, but 4♠ is a monster overbid. I mean you can't have it both ways, as "my Qx and J98 don't count as stoppers, but they add value to my hand for play in spades." South has an easy nonforcing 2NT bid if natural (or 2NT if an 'inquiry' haha) over which north has an easy 3NT bid on a super max with 3 card support. I have to admit I would upgrade as north so my auction is pass by south, 1NT by north, stayman 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Gnomenclayture 1♣ (1) - 1♠(2)1NT (3) - 2♣(4)2♦(5) - 3NT(6)Pass (1) 2+ clubs(2) Variety of hands, no 4cM unless reversing over diamonds(3) 11-13 balanced(4) Form of 2-way nmf(5) Forced(6) 5♦332 hand choice of games In fact, North may just bid 3NT after 1NT Gnome Club South hand is a pass. North opens 1NT and after stayman, hands will be in 3NT. So not great for either system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I wouldn't open 1D, but if I did: 1D 2NT (GF raise)3NT (11-14 balanced) After an initial pass, I might manage: pass 1D1S 2S3D (invitational, 4-4) 3H3S 4S but probably not - the North hand looks like a strong notrump to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roupoil Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I wouldn't open South hand either, but if I did : 1♦ 2♦ (GF)2NT (balanced 12-14 or 18-19) 3NT Maybe it could go something like that : 1♦ 2♦2♠ (normally 5♦ and 4♠) 3♦ (no club stop)3♠ (no club stop either, waiting bid) 4♠ but I am sure that, even after opening 1♦, I wouldn't bid like this at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Using Golady: 1♦2♣ (GF, artificial)2♥ (four spades)3♦ (diamond support)3NT (nothing to say)Pass Another approach I use: 1♦2♦ (Limit+ with diamonds, or balanced 13-15)2♠ (natural, but not GF)2NT (waiting)3♦ (no club holding)3♠ (delayed raise)4♠ A third approach: 1♣ (not unbalanced with diamonds)1♦1NT2♠3♦3♥4♦4♠Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 My auction: 1♦ 2♦2NT 3NT 2♦ = inverted raise2NT = a very min balanced hand, 12-13 hcp (with good bal 13-14, opener bids 3♣ (artificial))3NT = when both hands have no singleton, it's statistically favourable to skip stoppers and just bid 3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 What's your auction with these two hands? I'd prefer to see auctions where south opens 1D. That's borderline, but with Smirny I might stretch to an opening bid (playing 14-16 NT vuln.) 1♦ - 2♦2NT - 3NT Not vulnerable we HAVE an opening bid :) 1NT (good 10 - 13) - 3NT If South sensibly passes either: 1NT - Stayman ... 3NT or playing weak NT: 1♦ - 1♠1NT - 3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I wouldn't open the South hand either, but suppose you fiddle with the layout slightly to give the same basic issue but South having an opening bid: 1♦ - 2♦2♥ - 2♠3NT - P 2♦ = inverted, INV+2♥ = 12-14 or 18-19 balanced2♠ = random game force, no singleton3NT = minimum weak NT North could bid 3NT over 2♥, but his hand looks better as dummy due to lack of tenaces. As jdonn says I could invent an acution that plays in 4S, but I'd be lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I'd pass this south hand with partners where this distribution would systemically be a 1♦ opening, and open it 1♣ with all my regular partners. :) Our bidding would be 1♣ - 2NT(13+ bal.) - 3NT.Alternatively p - 1NT - Stayman - 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Bid this tough hand via email. I bid the opener's hand. 1d was automatic3c=game force in D, unbalanced often (crisscross)3s= showed a spade stopper.4s= see partner's comments and his guess of my hand. "The auction should go 1D 3C3S 4Spass Once responder decides he shouldn't bid 3NT on two small (and he shouldn't), he is end-played into bidding past 3NT, so bid what you have...your strongest holding outside of trumps IS the KQx of spades, and since you've already denied 4 spades, partner will play you for a strong 3-card holding. If opener doesnt really have 4 spades OR if he has a much stronger hand, he can bid on. But this auction is ideal, and simple (we like simple) if he has some hand as crummy as we like to open such as: AJxx Qx KJxx xxx" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 3NT whoever opens, south is not even close to an openig in my style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 1♦ 2♦2NT 3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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