Worth of inviting? and what if yes?

[cnszsun]

[hv=d=s&v=b&s=sxxxxhqjdkqjxxcq10]133|100|Scoring: IMP

ps-1♥

1♠-2♥

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Opps silent, I passed at 1st seat, and parter opened 1♥, i responded 1♠ (2♦ better?).

Anyway, after partner rebid 2♥, what to call?

[whereagles]

It's imps. I gotta invite, so 3♥. I'll probably go down if pard has a lousy min, but I can't pass this and miss a game if pard has a good min.

[Gerben42]

This is the kind of hand where you consider not inviting, but if don't you will feel very silly that you didn't as partner quickly claims overtricks.

 

I'll probably go down

 

You mean partner will go down.

[jdonn]

I hate inviting when partner can't judge because we bid our xxxx suit. I'm not saying I hate the 1♠ bid, just that inviting is pointless because partner can't judge correctly, even though I think on values it's worth an invite. So I'll guess pass instead of 4♥.

[ArtK78]

Assuming that 2♦ by me would have been natural, I would have bid 2♦ in response to 1♥.

 

Either way, I raise to 3♥ now.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

3H.

 

I would have prefered a 2D bid, but it turned out,

that 2H worked better.

I have 3 tricks for partner, so he should make 3H

with a min. opener, and he may well have something

to spare.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[rogerclee]

I'll invite, knowing full well that partner may evaluate his spade KJx as "bonus". Anything else just seems worse to me.

[Codo]

As a passed hand I must at least invite opposite a 6 card suit, so 3 Heart is it.

 

And I disagree that this hand is strong enough for 2 Diamond, planing to rebid spades later.

 

F.E.: Pd has AKxx, AKxxx,xxxx,x and bids what opposite 2♦ from a passed partner? If you are not strong enough to open, you are hardly strong enough to reverse now.

[the hog]

Playing 2/1 this is clearly not a 2D bid. The S are miserable also and I might have started with a fnt. However, 3H is clear now.

[rogerclee]

Playing 2/1 this is clearly not a 2D bid. The S are miserable also and I might have started with a fnt. However, 3H is clear now.

You are a passed hand.

[brianshark]

FWIW, I would have bid 2♦ on the previous round.

 

As it is, I'm leaning towards 4♥ but I'm scared pard might be forced in ♠s if the opps find that lead (or switch). I agree with Josh about the fact that your spades are crap that pard can't properly evaluate his hand. But also, if we jump to game quickly, opps might lead a minor which will probably work out nicely for us. I also gave a jump to 3N some thought. It's more of a gamble so maybe I shouldn't, but I like the idea of keeping opps in the dark about my hand. While a spade lead through responder's suit occurs now and then, rarely will they lead into it. Hearts could easily run and if pard has only 5 ♥s then chances are good he has 4 ♣s.

 

Mark me down for a 3NT gamble.

[Codo]

if pard has only 5 ♥s then chances are good he has 4 ♣s.

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Not possible after this bidding. If he has 5332 he will rebid NT and with 5/4 his suit.

So he promised 6+ Hearts.

[brianshark]

Right you are. 4♥ it is.

[gwnn]

I hate inviting when partner can't judge because we bid our xxxx suit. I'm not saying I hate the 1♠ bid, just that inviting is pointless because partner can't judge correctly, even though I think on values it's worth an invite. So I'll guess pass instead of 4♥.

Very good point. But at the table I'd surely bid 4♥ :)

[junyi_zhu]

[hv=d=s&v=b&s=sxxxxhqjdkqjxxcq10]133|100|Scoring: IMP

ps-1♥

1♠-2♥

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Opps silent, I passed at 1st seat, and parter opened 1♥, i responded 1♠ (2♦ better?).

Anyway, after partner rebid 2♥, what to call?

This is a clear 3H bid, your overall strength justifies the invitation. HQJ can be very good,

DKQJ, CQ can have some value. 4H is a clear overbid because of the poor control. Pass is just way too chicken.