bid_em_up Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 [hv=s=sjxxhxxdaqxxckxxx]133|100|[/hv] Assuming a soundish opening style and not playing Bergen raises, do you treat this hand as a 3 card limit raise or as a simple raise to 2S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 8 losers in LTC. Against that it is not a particularly great 10 count. What sways it is the xx in H.3 card limit raise for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 No strong feelings either way.I voted for 2♠, but would probably show it as a limit raise some days, depending on vulnerabilty, scoring and pips.Would also have no problem whichever option partner chose. I just reread the question and noticed your stated conditions of sound opening style. Perhaps the limit raise option is better now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Limit raise. The Jxx in my partner's long suit is much more valuable than if in a side suit. Decent control cards and a ruffing value. Partner should not expect more than this for a minimum limit raise. Compare this hand to. Axx, Jx, Qxxx, KxxxAxx, xx, Qxxx, KJxx Both of these are simple raises, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 OK I'll count points and this is an unflawed 11 support points. 3 card limit raise for me. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 If forced to play these methods, this is a three card limit raise.... (and no, i don't play bergen either). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I don't even know what you mean by "soundish" opening bids. To me, this is a simple raise. Partner can make a game try. I don't even consider the small doubleton with only three card support. Besides, I like to have something in reserve for all of my bids, since my partners are very aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 This is a limit raise by all of my metrics. 10 HCP, a doubleton, 8 losers, roughly 3 cover cards, and no obvious flaw. I like my AQ, and I don't love my unsupported K and J, or the lack of intermediates, but it's a bidder's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Clear limit raise imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 indeed. This is the sort of hand that might miss a game if underbid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I don't even know what you mean by "soundish" opening bids. In order: Mike777very lightquite lightlightfairly lightlightishaveragesoundishfairly soundsoundquite soundvery soundMike777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 OK I'll count points and this is an unflawed 11 support points. 3 card limit raise for me. .. neilkaz .. Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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