Favorable Vulnerability Madness

[rogerclee]

1) IMPs, White against Red (respond in the poll to this one)

2) MPs, White against Red

3) At Favorable MPs, if the opponents reach 6S and partner doesn't double for a club lead, would you bid 7H?

 

Partner's preempts are juniorish.

 

♠6 ♥T854 ♦T8 ♣QT8643

 

Partner opens 3♥ in first seat and it proceeds

 

3♥-3♠-?

 

I don't think this is the time to fool around with some number of notrump (5NT would be kind of funny), but feel free to post if you think that is right.

[655321]

I bid a normal 5♥.

 

4NT RKCB also takes their blackwood away, and perhaps you might even learn how many keycards for ♥ partner has, not that anyone will be better off for knowing that. :)

 

(Edit) Missed question 3:

No, I don't save.

The standard advice is don't save against a slam unless you expect to get out for less than game. Not sure that would happen here, but I prefer to save against a slam even more rarely anyway.

Here you have forced them to guess, perhaps 6♠ is their best contract, but perhaps 6♠ is off an Ace and partner's Qxx trump, perhaps there are 17 tricks in 7NT. Who knows, but I pass out 6♠.

Edited January 14, 2008 by 655321

[awm]

Partner could have a lot of things here. If partner's a lock to have a pure hand with seven good hearts or the like, then we want to preempt like mad. But partner's described as "juniorish" and could easily have a six (or even five?) card suit at these colors, not to mention some defense on the side.

 

I'd suggest bidding some number of clubs, hoping to consult partner about how high to sacrifice. How about 5♣, planning to pull to 5♥ if doubled?

[Apollo81]

I like 5♥. We wont go for too huge a number if doubled, and the opps might miss a slam that we're virtually sure they're making.

 

(3) Yes, since it is favorable MPs. We might push em to a making grand though...

[pclayton]

I really want to take away my LHO's ability to cuebid.

 

I'll try a subtle 6♥.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

how good are your opponents?

 

Besides bidding some numbers of hearts and NT,

you could also bid some numbers of clubs.

 

I guess, I would try 4H.

 

The trouble with 5H is, that this tells them that

we are both weak, in which case you may as

well bid 6H at once.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Guest Jlall]

Agree with 6♥, to stop them from bidding a grand if possible. Don't hate any of the options.

[jdonn]

I would bid 7H over 3S directly and let them guess.

[jdonn]

Agree with 6♥, to stop them from bidding a grand if possible. Don't hate any of the options.

And I thought I was bidding in accordance with jlall: http://squeezingthedummy.blogspot.com/2006...al-theorem.html

 

B)

[gwnn]

What if pd has some minor quackie holdings that would beat 6♠? What if they don't get to slam after 5♥? 6 or 7♥ sounds overly confident pd has a sound preempt.

[dake50]

I like 6H here AND with D-AK. Tell oppts I want them to slam when I do and dare them here.

[benlessard]

6H or pass :) . Either I put then on a guess by bidding 6H, (they make 7 but they dont bid it or they bid 7 and go down or they bid 6 and go down) or what i like to do against trustworthy opps is pass & let them used all the the science they want. and if they bid/stop in 6 with confidence ill sac at 7H.

 

The two thing i dont like is useless preempt like 4H or taking another bid after you make the opponents guess.

[mr1303]

I like pass here. Raising hearts may just warn them of their fit.

[kfay]

I would bid 7H over 3S directly and let them guess.

I've had a major success with this sort of bid before... except that I held an outside Ace and I knew I could set 7.

 

I'd just settle for 6♥ here.

 

If they bid 6♠ I'll bid 7♥.