paulg Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=skqxxxxhdaxckjxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP(3♥) Dbl (4♥) ?[/hv] Your call (at favourable vulnerability). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 If I have just one bid, I try 7 Spade. But I am allowed to start lower. I wish that 5 Heart would be Exclusion, but it is not, I bid 6 Heart and hope that my pd understands it.Will he bid 7 with Axxx,xx,KQxx,AQx? I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 7♠ I have no methods to find out if partner has both black Aces.Either 12 or 13 tricks should be wall to wall. The obvious possible dangers are:(1) We are missing a black Ace, and(2) We have the black Aces, but Partner's diamonds are missing the King, and we can't pitch enough diamonds from one hand or the other. I rate (1) as a low risk, and (2) also low, but perhaps more likely. The rest of the time I expect there to be 13 tricks, I can't get the information I need, so 7♠ it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 how on earth can 7 spades be sensible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 how on earth can 7 spades be sensibleLOL Maybe it is not sensible, but I think 13 tricks will often be available, and there is no way to find out what you need to know. :) But here is a more delicate alternative:Bid 5♥ now, and make your next bid 6♠. Perhaps partner will be able to move when 7 is cold, and pass when it is not. Still, I seriously don't mind an immediate 7♠ bid, and I think I would bid it at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Hi, 4NT, 2-places to play, followed by? Maybe 6S, this should send the messageand partner will surely bid 7S, if he looksat both black Aces. On the other hand, bidding 6S direct may wellbe best, it gives up on 7S, but how certainare we, that 7S is better than 50% even if partner is looking at both black Aces? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 What do you expect as the worst hand to double 3 Heart in second seat with an unpassed partner?Jxxx,x,KQJx,Qxxx? No? If you expect just a little more, then slam is on. Axx,xx,KQJxx,Axx? Grand Slam is on a finesse or breaking diamonds. Of course there are hands where pd has his double but the Grand is on a finesse. There ares even hands, where an ace is missing. But these are hard to find. With just AJxx,-,KQJx,Qxxx it is bad luck that he has his double because of the shape and we are missing an ace. But if we make a strong move towards GS, he should be able to see if his hand is good opoosite a strong spade hand with a heart void or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchTsch Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I bid 5♥.I guess P will take it as a slam try for spades not some minor suit mumbojumbo. On 5♠ i bid 5NT.On 6♠ i bid 7♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 7♠ has to be odds on. The opponents are vulnerable and the only meaningful cards we are missing are the ♠A, ♣AQ and ♦K (which may not matter). The problem with 5♥ or a non-spade call is that pard might bid spades. Since LHO very easily could have a club void for the preempt, I don't want to give LHO the chance to make a lightner x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roupoil Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I think I would have bid 5♥, but I am not sure what the meaning of the bid is supposed to be, and what I am going to do at my next turn :) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I'd bid 5♥ followed by 6♠. I certainly wouldn't force a grand that could easily have no play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguelm Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 First, some food for thought..... - what should a double be in this position...? Surely not for penalties... - what should 4NT be in this position....? Do I hear "pick a minor"...? Is that the best (in terms of frequency) treatment here...? - what is the difference between 5H followed by 6S and bidding 6S directly....? - what a jump 6H should be....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 - what is the difference between 5H followed by 6S and bidding 6S directly....? The former is a try for grand. The latter is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I agree with 5H then 6S, maybe I will miss 7 but I am missing too many important cards to drive there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguelm Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 - what is the difference between 5H followed by 6S and bidding 6S directly....? The former is a try for grand. The latter is not. Okay :) So, what should be the difference between that (5H followed by 6S) and 6H :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Partner held: ♠ATx♥Jx♦KTxx♣AQxx In real life my club partner forgot to double ... and then did not want to punish me for bidding, so we played in 4♠ :) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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