Fluffy Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sa10962hk7da64cj62]133|100|Scoring: IMPW - N - E - S - - 1♣ -ps-1♠3♦-3NT-ps-??[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 call me a pedant but I still don't think this is a reopening situation B) let's just try 4NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 do you have the auction right? am i really opening over p's 3NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 How, indeed? Anyway, I agree with 4NT. Partner was under some pressure, but 4NT is likely to be cold even opposite a minimum. Partner can move, or not, as he sees fit. 4♣ is a reasonable bid too. If you plan to drive the hand to slam 4♣ is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Partner's likely hand type is 18-19 balanced. With suits likely splitting foul, I'm going to be content to rest in 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Tough problem, but I'm going to make one try. 4♦ sounds like a self-cue for spades, so thats out. 4♣ I think it reasonable, with the intent of passing 4N if pard wants out. 4N is a sensible alternative, but I'm not sure I want to try for 6N with 19 opposite my 12 although it could be right. 6♣ feels like it's still in the picture. Give pard a perfectly normal: Kx, Axx, KJx, AKxxx and I like my chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 No reason partner has to be balanced here, he could have long clubs or short spades or whatever. I would bid 4N here hoping to hear 6C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I think the most common hand type is a runnig club suit and the King of diamonds and one or two other useful cards. If pd has just xx,Ax,Kx,AKQxxxx we are cold for 6 NT. But how to find out?I voted a quantitative 4 NT but this won´t help partner, so I changed to the 4 Club camp. If slam is on, I often will convert 6 Club to 6 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 If there's a slam, I think it's likely to be in clubs more often than NT. So I might lean towards 4♣ rather than 4NT. But I'm definitely not converting 6♣ to 6NT regardless of what I bid first. (eg. x,Qxx,Kx,AKQxxxx) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchTsch Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 4NT I'm not passing this one, and don't think it's up to me to guess what did my endplayed partner bid 3NT with. So I'll just bid my hand. I have a balanced invitational hand so 4NT it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roupoil Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I would try 4♣. I think partner rates to have a really nice club suit for his 3NT bid without aces, so 6♣ is not far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Reconsidering this problem a day later, if pard is going to accept 6, wouldn't he bid 6♣ over 4N with 5 good clubs? 4♣ really sounds like 4 card support. Change mine to 4N please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Reconsidering this problem a day later, if pard is going to accept 6, wouldn't he bid 6♣ over 4N with 5 good clubs? 4♣ really sounds like 4 card support. Change mine to 4N please. A jump to 6♣ sounds like 6 good clubs to me. Partner didn't promise a balanced hand. He might bid 5♣, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Pass, wtp. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Reconsidering this problem a day later, if pard is going to accept 6, wouldn't he bid 6♣ over 4N with 5 good clubs? 4♣ really sounds like 4 card support. Change mine to 4N please. A jump to 6♣ sounds like 6 good clubs to me. Partner didn't promise a balanced hand. He might bid 5♣, though. Maybe this auction has some different connotations but I've always played that you bid 4-card suits up the line over a quantitative 4NT and jump in 5-card suits. Without specific discussion otherwise this is still my agreement so while 6♣ might sound like 6 I think it only promises 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Reconsidering this problem a day later, if pard is going to accept 6, wouldn't he bid 6♣ over 4N with 5 good clubs? 4♣ really sounds like 4 card support. Change mine to 4N please. A jump to 6♣ sounds like 6 good clubs to me. Partner didn't promise a balanced hand. He might bid 5♣, though. Maybe this auction has some different connotations but I've always played that you bid 4-card suits up the line over a quantitative 4NT and jump in 5-card suits. Without specific discussion otherwise this is still my agreement so while 6♣ might sound like 6 I think it only promises 5. This isn't a typical NT auction. Pard could be a big balanced hand, or he could be a strong hand with a source of tricks in clubs. Arend makes a good point- 6♣ very well could be 6. 5♣ could be 5. 5N could be 4-4 in the minors perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Isn't it possible that partner might have 3 spades for us? Double would have been penalty by opener, so he may be forced to bid his strength/running clubs in preference to showing spades. Maybe Kxx Ax Kx AKQxxx? I voted for 4♦ hoping it would be a generic strong forcing bid (rather than a specific cue or something), aiming to get a strain preference for spades vs clubs and then invite slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I didn't like 4NT because I felt our hand was very well suited for a trump contract.But there ain't any better solution. Partner had QxAJxKxAKQxxx After murking the waters with 4♦ and an obscure round of bidding, my partner showed some sanity and just jumped to a practical 6♣ wich ended the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Does partner need to be as good as this for 3NT? I think any hand that would have bid 3C and has a diamond stop would be sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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