Fluffy Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=s53hk1062dq874ckq9]133|100|Scoring: IMP W - N - E - S2♦*-3♣-ps-??[/hv] 2♦* = multi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 IMO, this particular auction works well if 3♦ is forcing and either natural OR a punt bid. Even if undiscussed, that's my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 I chose 3♥ but this feels like a very tough problem. I'm curious how the players that frequently play against multi handle this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 In my multi defense, responder can ask about major suit stoppers with 3♦, and you can still work it out in time if opener has a four card major instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 In my multi defense, responder can ask about major suit stoppers with 3♦, and you can still work it out in time if opener has a four card major instead. What would you do if the overcall is 3♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 In my multi defense, responder can ask about major suit stoppers with 3♦, and you can still work it out in time if opener has a four card major instead. What would you do if the overcall is 3♦? 3♥ = hearts or stopper.--- 3♠ = I raise hearts.(yes this doesn't let you find a 4-4 spade fit when advancer has longer hearts, but you can still do so over 3♣. 3♦ leaves you less space.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanM Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 In my multi defense, responder can ask about major suit stoppers with 3♦, and you can still work it out in time if opener has a four card major instead. What would you do if the overcall is 3♦? 3♥ = hearts or stopper.--- 3♠ = I raise hearts.(yes this doesn't let you find a 4-4 spade fit when advancer has longer hearts, but you can still do so over 3♣. 3♦ leaves you less space.)I think I originated that particular gadget (it's one of the few things in our multi defense that Chip didn't invent :)), although we recommend it to others only when using a written defense - when the multi defense has to be memorized it's a little dangerous. It's certainly good on this type of hand, allowing the responder to bid 3♦ and find either a 4-4 heart fit or stoppers in both majors to play 3NT. By the way, for those who have laughed at me when I mention that our multi defense is 11 pages long, it's that long because of things like playing 3♥ here as 2-way. It doesn't come up often, but it is definitely worth having when it does. On this particular hand, I think that if I couldn't bid 3♦ and then be able to get to either a 4-4 heart fit or 3NT when partner had a spade stopper, I'd pass. This is a fairly marginal advance of the 3♣ overcall, and I'm bidding only because I don't think partner would stretch to overcall on a suit missing the KQ, but I know I might be turning a plus into a minus by bidding. If partner has something like xx, AQx, xx, AJxxxx, 3♣ is the limit of the hand. I bid because if partner has x, AQJx, xx, AJxxxx, 4♥ is cold and if partner has Kxx, Ax, Jx, AJxxxx, 3NT is cold, so bidding can turn a small plus into a much larger one, thus is worth the risk. But if I have to make an inaccurate bid (either 3♦ or 3♥ natural) or one where I won't know what partner's next bid means (3♦ without a clear agreement that 3♥ by partner can be either a stopper or 4 hearts), the risk/reward ration changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 very slow 3D bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 this is an easy 3NT for me. Very easy indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchTsch Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 3♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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