hrothgar Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 You hold ♠ 98♥ 76♦ JT94♣ AQ862 at IMPS. The opponents bid 1N - 2♥2♠ - 3N What's your lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 A club? Which one is a matter ofagreement. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 club, ofc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 ♣6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_s Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 A small club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 i will have to hear some very persuasive logic to convince me not to lead a small club with this hand on this auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 first option ♣6, second option ♣2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 i will have to hear some very persuasive logic to convince me not to lead a small club with this hand on this auction. If the 1N opener is RHO, then leading a ♣ may cost a trick. You want =partner= to lead ♣'s =through= RHO and into you hand if RHO is the 1N opener. Natural lead from the given hand is the DJ from JT9x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 4th best club for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I have to agree with the world, a club seems like by far the best chance to set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 i will have to hear some very persuasive logic to convince me not to lead a small club with this hand on this auction. If the 1N opener is RHO, then leading a ♣ may cost a trick. You want =partner= to lead ♣'s =through= RHO and into you hand if RHO is the 1N opener. Natural lead from the given hand is the DJ from JT9x cough... At matchpoints I would have a lot of sympathy for a diamond lead. At imps, never. Lead a club, and hope partner can get in and has two or more clubs. A club gives us a reasonable chance to set up four winners in that suit. AT imps I am not trying to keep from blowing an overtrick, I am trying to gain enough tricks to set the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I'll lead a ♣ at IMPs and hope we can get 4♣ tricks once PD gets in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Ya at imps a club is just our best shot to beat the hand via 5 clubs or 4 clubs+ partners entry. At MP I would go with the DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Ya at imps a club is just our best shot to beat the hand via 5 clubs or 4 clubs+ partners entry. At MP I would go with the DJ I think the ♣ is best, but I'm curious about the ♦ at MPs. Not only does it seem less lucrative but I'd be worried we aren't getting any field protection on the opening lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 I lead a club at any form of scoring. At IMPs, it is absolutely clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Obvious ♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 There's a good reason that 4th highest of longest & strongest is so popular - it's likely to be the best way of beating the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 There's a good reason that 4th highest of longest & strongest is so popular - it's likely to be the best way of beating the contract. Bridge by parable? I dare say that if the contract was 4S rather than 3N, no one would be leading a ♣ from AQxxx on this auction; and we all know why."4th down from your longest and strongest" does not come close to describing the actual complexity of choosing an opening lead. Underleading A's and AQ's can cost vs NT contracts as well as vs suit contracts. The opening lead is definitely the hardest play in Bridge to get right, and clearly one can construct boards where what we need to do here is lead a Major! However, the issue is what is not what is going to work, but rather what is most likely to work. I don't =know= what is most likely to work, and neither does anyone else who is honest about it. I think a ♣ or a ♦ is most likely to.And I don't think it is as clear cut as simply tallying the responses might given the impression of. Another situation where it would be interesting for a good simulation to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 And I don't think it is as clear cut as simply tallying the responses might given the impression of. The responses are based on experience, which from all the respondants I would bet totals over a million hands of bridge. For such a simple problem (common auction, unexceptional hand) that's as accurate as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald_21 Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Another situation where it would be interesting for a good simulation to be done. I did a simulation yesterday and clubs was the best lead (diamonds was second best, but it was not close). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Club lead is really clear at IMPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Another situation where it would be interesting for a good simulation to be done. I did a simulation yesterday and clubs was the best lead (diamonds was second best, but it was not close). What sort of simulation did you do? How many hands? Single Dummy or Double Dummy? Any more details ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 There's a good reason that 4th highest of longest & strongest is so popular - it's likely to be the best way of beating the contract. Bridge by parable? I dare say that if the contract was 4S rather than 3N, no one would be leading a ♣ from AQxxx on this auction; and we all know why."4th down from your longest and strongest" does not come close to describing the actual complexity of choosing an opening lead. Thank you for that very helpful remark about leading against 4S. Actually, whilst all such bridge 'rules' should be broken sometimes, '4th highest from your longest and strongest' is one of the best around against blind auctions to 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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