catch22 Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=saqt87h4dak63c843]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] What would you bid on this hand on the following auctions:[3H] ?[3H] P P ?[4H] ?[4H] P P ? Would vulnerability affect your choice? If you double in the pass out seat, would you bid spades if LHOs pre-empts are known to be sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Min # of spades in all cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 I bid 3S automatically over either 3H preempt. Over 4H, I pass both times, but I feel dirty about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 I bid spades at the three level and double at the four level. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 I bid spades at the three level and double at the four level. Paul I agree. Though I found double tempting after 3♥ P P since partner might be waiting over the bidder. Sorry Phil, I really hate 4♠ over 4♥, it's just too high a level to not choose your more flexible option. Who knows maybe others agree with you though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 3♠ for sure over the 3♥ preempt but I'll double the 4♥ preempt as I prefer to have a bit better prospects for 4♠ which is also certainly easier and less risky for the opps to whack. I have too much to pass the 4♥ preempt, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Min # of spades in all cases. I agree. The spade quality is critical. I would not give up hope opposite a stiff, and a nice stiff would be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Min # of spades in all cases. I agree. The spade quality is critical. I would not give up hope opposite a stiff, and a nice stiff would be even better. Yeah, who would want to defend 4♥X if partner had a stiff spade.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Min # of spades in all cases. I agree. The spade quality is critical. I would not give up hope opposite a stiff, and a nice stiff would be even better. Yeah, who would want to defend 4♥X if partner had a stiff spade.... I'm more concerned about when partner has Jx or Kx and we are in a minor or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 I think you have to double 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 3♠ x 2, double x 2. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 I dont have strong feelings about 4S versus double. 4S tends to find the good 5-2 or 5-3 game. Even a 5-4 game can be a problem since pard will often leave in a double with a semi balanced hand. The double will net us a nice penalty when we dont have game, but I dont think theres any other benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 I have no strong feelings on 3S vs double (I would X), but doubling 4H looks clear to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 3S over 3H, after 4H ... i pass. X is tempting but i find the hand too light. Bidding 4S is simply bad imho. after 4H p,p im strong enough to X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 I pass both in direct seat, reopen with 3♠ and double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 3S over 3H and double over 4H. I need to do something, otherwise we prove the value of bidding 4H with any excuse. Don't like ignoring a five card spade suit, but I'm not unilaterally bidding 4S on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Bid ♠ at the 3 level, and X at the 4 level, like most people. Bidding ♠ at the 4 level is too committal, but it is not ridiculous, and could work. Likewise, doubling at the 3 level is likely to miss a ♠ fit, but it too is not crazy and could work. But passing in the direct seat, with a singleton ♥ and such a good hand is losing bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 The double will net us a nice penalty when we dont have game, but I dont think theres any other benefit. What about when it's right to play in 5m rather than 4♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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