tough slam

[benlessard]

[hv=d=s&n=sakxhakxxdaqxxxcx&s=sqxxhxxdktxxcqtxx]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

1D (12-22) unbalanced at least 4D

2D raise 6-10 could be 3 card

2H natural reverse (could be 3 cards)

3Nt stopper in both unbid suit minimum hand (2Nt would be GF with desire to declare the hand but deosnt promise stopper in both unbid suit) , 2S would be slow down)

 

all pass

 

 

I think there is nothing we can do.

 

Do you agree ?

 

PS in 6D how do you play the hand ?

[jdonn]

I think 3NT fast arrival is a bad agreement, but I would not bid this slam anyway. I think I would end in 5♦ after investigating beyond 3NT. Something like

 

1♦ 1NT

2♥ 3♦ (gf)

3♠ 3NT

4♦ 5♦

 

looks right to me.

[Fluffy]

Well, north knew 100% that partner had ♠Q, and had a lot of chances to have ♦K. This means he only lacks ♣A and ♥Q or doubleton, He probably shouldn't pass 3NT.

 

The problem is the methods wich made you preempt yourself.ç

 

 

In 6♦ on a neutral heart lead, lay down ♦A, and proceed to ruff 2 hearts in dummy.

[Codo]

I am with fluffy about the bidding, north knows about the Queen of spade.

 

I would play ace and king of Diamonds first. IF trumps are two-two I will survive any heart split.

[Winstonm]

I am fairly certain I would end in 3N as well, and 6D isn't the best slam in the world, anyway - without the diamond 9-spot, it looks a little under 50% to me.

 

My auction would be:

 

1D-1N

2H-2N (non-forcing relay)

3S-3N

P

[jdonn]

Well, north knew 100% that partner had ♠Q, and had a lot of chances to have ♦K. This means he only lacks ♣A and ♥Q or doubleton, He probably shouldn't pass 3NT.

His partner can't have QS KD AC for the 3NT bid. And Qxx or xx of hearts is not good enough if his partner has just 3 diamonds.

[Fluffy]

OP might enlighten us as to what requirements does a hand have to have to bid 1Nt or 2♦ with 3 cards. I beleive after 3NT the 3 card raise is no longer an option.

[han]

I don't think it is possible for responder to bid 3NT in Winston's auction. With K10xx in opener's first suit and only Q10xx responder has to support diamonds. But I doubt they'd find slam then.

[benlessard]

1D is unbalanced so most of the time it has 5D or+.

 

4441,(31)45,(40)45 are the only shape without 5D. So responder will have an easy raise to 2D with Qxx ,xx ,Kxx, Qxxxx.

With Qxx,Jxx,Kxx,Qxxx its border line between 1Nt & 2D IMHO (but i know most will say its a clear cut 1Nt)

 

Partner with sub minimum or really scrap will bid 2S slow down. Everything else is GF. 2Nt is used to protect a holding like Kx & Qx and doesnt promise stoppers in both the unbid suits its also used for hands too strong for 3Nt. 3Nt would suggest a soft hand with minimal values but enough to play game. It should denies a nice fit in D (unless no ruffingpower).

 

I think 3Nt is right on the spot for values (maybe a bit short) Kxxx is a vgood fit and usually with this holding 3D is the bid. But with such a soft hand i can understand 3Nt. Because a 3D bid might lead overboard.

 

What used do you reserve for a jump 3Nt in similar auction ?