hammberry Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Matchpoints, none vulnerable I dealt, holding ♠6 ♥T975 ♦QJ85 ♣9763 After two passes, partner opened 1♥, RHO overcalled 2♦. Should I make a single raise or jump to 3♥? What should guide me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 4 card support and 3 quacky HCP (which may not be so useful inspite of being behind overcall. You have 1♠ and unless the hand is a freak, PD has at most 4 so the opps have a ♠ fit, but inspite of that, I am bidding 3♥ preemptive at all forms of scoring and vul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 What should guide you? I am going to assume 5 card majors.... You have weak hand and 4 trumps, and good distribution (a singleton spade). That suggest preempting. In addition, if parnter would open a hand with 6H and 5S with 1S, that further support preempting to make it hard for them to find there sure minimum 8 card spade fit. On the other hand, you QJxx of diamonds in "their suit" are a definate minus for preempting. It is best to go slow with values in Their suit, especially when you are behind the bidder. On this hand, I have to admit, a tug towards 3♥, the problem is partner was in third seat and might be substandard himself. If they were vul, i would bid 3♥, here at equal and in matchpoints, I am going conservative and bid just 2♥, no need to make it easy for them to get +200 against us (or more should partner have opened light)... and our stiff spade suggest if they bid 4♠ partner may have a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 3 hearts. You have a descriptive call of your hand available, make it. Give them the last guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Robson/Segal recommend not jumping around when you're long in their suit because then pard might make a phantom save. However, I don't think there's much risk of opps declaring 5♦ on this one, so 3♥ is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Hi, 3H, wtp? The Law rules.If you cant stand 3H, fair enough,than 2H. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 3♥ is preemptive? There's no note about it. 3♥ is not perfect, but its fine. The opponents have at least an 8 card spade fit I'd like to shut out. As practical matter, its tough to get doubled in 3♥ anyway. Bid the limit of your hand and shut up :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocdelevat Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 depends who is your partner. Im beginner-intemediate and my partners are same level. Most of them never heard of LOT. When I jump with a hand like yours most of times I receive a 4nt back asking for aces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xx1943 Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 3♥ is the "normal" bid, BUT 1) If you show opps, that you have a good fit, they'll know, that the have a fit too and the 3♠ will be automatic. 2) So I consider some other destructive measures:---- pass to hide our fit---- psychic 2NT---- psychic 2♠ 3) The only bid which I don't think about is 2♥ :) Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOut Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 2) So I consider some other destructive measures:---- pass to hide our fit---- psychic 2NT---- psychic 2♠I hate it when partner decides to mastermind instead of making a normal descriptive bid. 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 3♥ is the "normal" bid, BUT 1) If you show opps, that you have a good fit, they'll know, that the have a fit too and the 3♠ will be automatic. That's ok. He has to bid 3♠ not 2♠ and they have one level less to sort everything out, especially given that he is making this "automatic" bid on many different hands. Plus if we have a good sacrifice later, this is how to let partner know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 I think 3H is pretty clear. LHO is a PH and didn't open 2S; it is very difficult to see him bidding 3S over 3H. I think psyching with this hand is pretty silly. 3H rates to buy the contract, which is pretty much what I want. As a note, I bid 3H even if we play 4cM in 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 3♥ is the "normal" bid, BUT 1) If you show opps, that you have a good fit, they'll know, that the have a fit too and the 3♠ will be automatic. Cause, you know, nobody EVER opens a 4 card suit 3rd hand, or pre-empts with 3 card support. Heh. Seriously, even if they know you have a 9 card fit, so what? If you have a 9 card fit, they most likely only have an 8 card fit. That doesn't make it safe to bid 3 over 3, and it sure doesn't make 4 of a minor safe. Those "automatic" 3♠ bids tend to run into wood chippers like... [hv=d=s&v=n&n=skjt5hak632d6ca42&w=saq432hq8d732cq85&e=s987hj4dakt94ckjt&s=s6ht975dqj85c9763]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] Keep in mind, the QJxx behind the 2♦ bidder should make you very happy to defend, especially if the guy to your left and your partner have the spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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