kfay Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 [hv=d=e&v=b&s=s9xxhajxdakjcqxxx]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♠)-P-(1NT)-P(Pass)-?[/hv] Do you agree with the initial pass? What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 [hv=d=e&v=b&s=s9xxhajxdakjcqxxx]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♠)-P-(1NT)-P(Pass)-?[/hv] Do you agree with the initial pass? What now? 1) No I double.2) Now I just pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 No good solution. For what it is worth, I have played a technique where a 1NT direct overcall with this sort of hand is used. You need a lot of checkback sequences, though. As a simple example, a Responder who would normall bid 2NT or 3NT would instead "transfer" to spades to check on stoppers. Similarly, Smolen or a 2♠ bid after Stayman also check on stoppers. Without that, you pass twice, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 [hv=d=e&v=b&s=s9xxhajxdakjcqxxx]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♠)-P-(1NT)-P(Pass)-?[/hv] Do you agree with the initial pass? What now? 1. Yes 2. I pass again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Just double, it's no BIG RISK associated with double but there is one with passing. Now just pass m8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 With 15 and J,J,Q over opener, am I compensated for only 3cH? YES T/OX 1stNow what's the hope for plus given partner passed? His S under whatever opener has, but rest says try for partial. reopen X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I use to pass these hands over 1S, but no more. I have too much and I do have support for all the suits. I would have doubled the first round. Not popular perhaps, but it has helped me since i started doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I would double initially. Having passed I really have to pass now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I use to pass these hands over 1S, but no more. I have too much and I do have support for all the suits. I would have doubled the first round. Not popular perhaps, but it has helped me since i started doing it. 100% agreement here, Ben. 15 HCP and good support in the 3 card suits is just enough for me, inspite of 4333. I find doubling now means that I have fewer uncomfortable decisions later in comp. On the 2nd go, I have to pass as well. three small ♠ when the opps don't have a fit isn't pretty and we are all vul at MP. If the opps make 1NT thats 90 for them, but if I double and we go off 1 in some 4-3 fit, thats 100 for them. If we are beating 1NT by a trick we get 100, but if we make 2m on the nose we get 90. Perhaps we are beating 1NT but after our double, the opps end up making 2 of something ? Perhaps we end up doubled and off 1 or 2 at the 2 level for a near 0. I think the risk of this is too much and won't be offset by the miracle 4♥ we may find (likely taking some gambling in the bidding to get that high). I think the risk won't be offset by the times we push the opps higher elsewhere and often if we make our 2 bid, we can take 1NT down 1. Just my opinion .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I feel strongly about doubling on the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 You need to double 1st. I will still pass a flat 13 count but not a 15 count that this good. Too many bad things can happen if you don't act initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I feel strongly about doubling on the first round. Me too. Obviously a balanced 12 or 13 may be a different story but this is 15 and we have a reasonable way into the auction, probably our last reasonable way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I don't mind defending this one. Might have bid 1NT before, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Hi, yes the first pass is ok, although a t/o doublewould be ok as well.Having passed the first round, you pass again. With kind regadsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I see only two choices: -initial double-pass and pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I see only two choices: -initial double-pass and pass me too.I don't feel strongly about the first round. I've seen doubles on this sort of hand work very well, and I've seen them work very badly. I haven't seen enough to decide if it's winning bridge or not. 1NT on the first round is horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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