kfay Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=skjxhkjdakqxxxcaq]133|100|Scoring: IMP(P)-P-(4♣)-?[/hv] Let's say you Double. Partner bids 4♠ and RHO bids 5♣. Now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Object! Why not a simple 4D vul vs NV I got a 4 loser hand.....I would hope partner would play me for a good hand if I bid 4D vul at imps. Now I have no idea...double I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 6 NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I would have bid 4♦ over 4♣, although it is an underbid. Double leaves you poorly placed later. If you bid 4♦ and partner bids 4 of a major, you can play in his major (I would raise as a general slam try). But if you double first you have no clue where to play the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Since I know RHO is gonna bid 5♣, this is easy: 4♦ + dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted December 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 RHO is going to bid 5♣ over a non-game of 4♦? I'm sorry but to me 4♦ is completely insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_s Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Good question!I like the 6NT punt: it seems as good as anything at this point. Check out the thread 'Robson/Segal advice' in the General Discussion area for a related discussion about 4♦ vs double. I confess I would probably have doubled at the table. I suspect 4♦ would have been a better choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Easy double the second time. These votes for 4♦ the first time are shocking, the hand is both too strong and too good for any other strain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Easy double the second time. These votes for 4♦ the first time are shocking, the hand is both too strong and too good for any other strain. doh, we bid 4♦ because we know RHO is gonna bid 5♣ no matter what. If I didn't know that, I'd probably bid 5♦ over 4♣.. lol. That's why I think these 2-in-1 or 2-part problems don't make much sense: we end up making a 1st bid based on info we weren't supposed to have until 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted December 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I see what you're saying. Perhaps I should rephrase. I doubled at my first bid (agree?). Now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Easy double the second time. These votes for 4♦ the first time are shocking, the hand is both too strong and too good for any other strain. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I see what you're saying. Perhaps I should rephrase. I doubled at my first bid (agree?). Now what? That would be better, yes ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 double then double obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 4♦? Laughable. I can see double and diamonds but we are probably getting fixed here. In a fun game I'll try 6N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 6N now is just silly, you might as well have bid 6N last round. I would have overcalled 4NT (natural) over 4C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=skjxhkjdakqxxxcaq]133|100|Scoring: IMP(P)-P-(4♣)-?[/hv]Let's say you Double. Partner bids 4♠ and RHO bids 5♣. Now what?6N now is just silly, you might as well have bid 6N last round. I would have overcalled 4NT (natural) over 4C.Frances' suggestion seems best although I suspect that I would overlook that possibility, at the table. IMOOver 4♣; 4N = 10, _X = 7, 5♦ = 4, 4♦ = 3.Over 5♣; _X = 10, 5♦ = 5, 5♠ = 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I doubled then doubled again, which was passed out. How do you defend when you lead the ♦K and dummy comes down: [hv=w=sa10xxh987xxxdjxcx&s=skjxhkjdakqxxxcaq]266|200|[/hv] and partner encourages with the ♦3? Edit: sorry realized this will lead everyone astray. Let's pretend partner discouraged... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 How big is the club x in dummy? My first thought is three rounds of diamonds (assuming that the second one doesn't get ruffed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 How big is the club x in dummy? My first thought is three rounds of diamonds (assuming that the second one doesn't get ruffed). Sorry, partner discourages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Cash another diamond and watch the spots very carefully. I would think pard has one of the major Q's or the ♥A and I'd like to figure out which one. K from AK here is a useful agreement by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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