CSGibson Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=n&n=s9xxhxxdakqxcqjxx&s=skqjthjxxdtxxcakx]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Playing with a pickup partner, and the bidding goes as follows: 1♦ - (2♥) - X - (pass) 3♣ - (pass) - 3♥ - (pass)4♣ - (pass) - 5♣ - All passObviously in imps you should be in 4 spades with a decent try at game. Who screwed this up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_s Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I think North needs to bid 3♠ instead of 4♣. This pretty much has to be a 3 card suit. After this, I think South should pass. 4♠ is a lucky make. 4♠ could go down if E has Ax of trumps. After three rounds of hearts, ruffed and overruffed, E wins the ace on the 2nd round of trumps and leads a 4th heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I voted no blame. I agree that North should have bid 3♠ and an inspired South could have tried 4♠ after that. South would know that game would come with no garantees at all, his holding in hearts suggest there are 2 or 3 fast losers. I say no to blaming a difficult hand like this that needs good judgement in a pick-up situation. It is difficult enough in an established partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I voted no blame. I don't think North should bid 3♠ on 9xx. This means that I don't think that the bad result was due to bidding error by North or South. Nevertheless, I think South should have bid 5♦, rather than 5♣. But this would have led to the same result. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I think North should have bid 3♠ or maybe 4♥ (choice-of-game) over 4♥. But the bidding was not terrible. S bid normaly although he could also have tried 4♠ over 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 North has a completely automatic 3S bid over 3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 North has a completely automatic 3S bid over 3H. Agree. You might back into the excellent spade game, but at least you'd find a nice partial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 North has a completely automatic 3S bid over 3H. Emphasis on this. 1D-(2H)-X -(pa); 3C-(pa)-3H!-(pa);3S-(pass)-?? S will play N to be =3154 or =3244 w/o a ♥ stop on this auction. Holding GF values, and given a= the known ruffing value in the N hand and b= that there are very few wasted values in ♥'s between NS, S can now bid the Moysian 4S game with reasonable chances that it will make. Best of all, the overcaller is on lead in a board where their partner rates to be nearly busted: ♠9xx ♥xx ♦AKQx ♣QJxx (Declarer)+ ♠KQJT ♥Jxx ♦Txx ♣AKx (Dummy) It's a reasonable bet that the vast majority, if not all, of the SA, HA, HK, and HQ are in E's hand. Even a good start for the defense such as HA, HK, SA, Sx does not look like it rates to set 4S. The defence starting off by playing more than 2 rounds of ♥'s does not help them much because Declarer can ruff ♥'s in the short hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 North has a completely automatic 3S bid over 3H. Agree. You might back into the excellent spade game, but at least you'd find a nice partial. Yes..I voted 100% North as he should pattern out with 3♠ rather than implying more distribution than 4-4 in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted December 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 It's a reasonable bet that the vast majority, if not all, of the SA, HA, HK, and HQ are in E's hand. I apparantly should have noted that 2♥ was a weak jump overcall, not an intermediate or strong call. Non-vulnerable at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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