Two chances to bid

[cnszsun]

[hv=d=n&v=e&s=sq10xxxhxdqjxxxcxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP

1♦-(1NT)-?-(..♥)

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1. Partner opened natural 1♦ (3+), rho overcalled 1nt, what's you first call?

2. No matter what you did, lho bid ♥ suit, and rho raised to game, would you act again?

[mike777]

1) 3d....promises 5d and shape..not 4 or flat.

2) pass now.....I suggested a save will leave final decision to partner.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

#1 2S.

#2 Pass, I now have regrets that i did not

show my support earlier.

But 3S as fit jump would have been to much.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Codo]

I had bid 2 Spade first and 5 Diamond now. My few HCPs are hopefully well placed.

 

Yes I know, this could be a telephone number.

[the hog]

"Thats another fine mess youv'e got me into. "- Stan Laurel. 3D first chance and pass now.

[whereagles]

Well.. easier if you know opps are going to bid hearts all the way to 4. Without that info, I'd probably try 2♠ first and 4♦ later. With the info I'm very tempted into 3♦ + 4♠.

[helene_t]

3♦ then 4♠.

[neilkaz]

3♦ then 4♠.

Same here and I expect the opps to have really good play for their 4♥

[mikeh]

If you intend to bid twice (and I do, altho it's close for me), it has to be right to bid diamonds first and then spades. It is not exactly a surprise that they bid hearts, nor is their bidding to 4♥ astounding. So we should try to cater to that in the auction. Bidding an immediate 2♠:

 

1) may let you buy the contract when LHO can't bid

2) may get you to the wrong partscore: partner can't run with short spades

3) forces you to 5♦ over 4♥

 

While some number of diamonds (I'd vote for only 2♦ here to cater to (2♥) P (P) when the opps lack the values for game) followed by spades allows us to lay in spades at a lower level when it is right and avoids the misfit when spades is wrong.

[oldman5757]

If you intend to bid twice (and I do, altho it's close for me), it has to be right to bid diamonds first and then spades. It is not exactly a surprise that they bid hearts, nor is their bidding to 4♥ astounding. So we should try to cater to that in the auction.

 

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While some number of diamonds (I'd vote for only 2♦ here to cater to (2♥) P (P) when the opps lack the values for game) followed by spades allows us to lay in spades at a lower level when it is right and avoids the misfit when spades is wrong.

Exactly right. This is the most efficient way to get both suits in the auction. By bidding ♦ first, (and I also like 2 ♦), you can then bid ♠ over any number of ♥ that opponents may subsequently bid. Not likely that 5♦ is going down too many, or is a phantom save, but if so, that's just bridge.

[gwnn]

I love MikeH's solution. It's very very rare that neither 4♠x nor 5♦x score better than 4♥ undoubled.