Deanrover Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 [hv=n=skxxxhajxxxxdatxc&s=saxhxdkxxcakqtxxx]133|200|DI9 lead in 7CL contract.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Take the trick with the dK, draw trumps dropping the cJ.I need to know if clubs are 3-3 or 4-2 to continue but let's assume clubs are 3-3Now heart to the ace and heart ruff, diamond to the ace and heart ruff. If hearts are not 3-3 and the hKQ doesn't fall I have reached something like: KxxJT- Ax xTx Now there're some squeeze chances that may or may not suceed but I think that the play so far is almost forced. Now it depends on who is out of hearts. You can cash the sA and the cT discarding the diamond from dummy in a classic double sqz. KxJ - x xx In the last trump west must unguard spades, you discard the hJ and east is squeezed in spades and diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanrover Posted February 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 WEst shows up with CJx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 This is a non-trivial problem in the sense that there is a trick one decision. The obvious line is to win in hand with the ♦K.... but if you have reason to beleive that WEST is long in ♠s (5 or more), I would play for this this following squeeze ending. This means that WEST has really screwed you up with the ♦ lead. You would have to win the ♦ in dummy at trick one to preserve a late entry to your hand. The play would then be, ♥Ace and ♥ruff and run all ♣ to reach something like this.... [hv=n=sk32hjdtc&w=sqt5hd87c&e=sjhkqdqjc&s=sa4hdk2ct]399|300|[/hv] On the last ♣, west will have to keep 3♠ so he can not keep two ♦, so you discard a ♠ from dummy. Now you cash ♠A and enter dummy with ♠King and squeeze EAST in ♦ and ♥ at the same time. Winning the ♦Ace is the only line when this squeeze exist (EAST with 4+♥. Without some strong distributional clues, I like everyone would play a low ♦ from dummy. I quess I would play a low ♦ not because I am saving the ten so much as a threat, as luis showed above, teh diamond threat will always be my little ♦ in south's hand, but rather somedays EAST will have ♦QJ doubleton (in fact, I expect the Queen of JACK to show up on this trick anyway as a false card to make it hard to count out the hands... from QJx(x) it can't hurt to play high against grand). After I win two ♣ and the Jx shows up on Left, I am very interested in first and second discard. With four ♠ a ♠ discard will be almost impossible with four in dummy. A ♦ discard, especially if east did play low on first round is close to giving weight to my ♦ threat in my hand, and of course with four ♥ WEST dares not throw one of them (I throw two ♥ away on first two ♣)... when he throws a ♦ (and especially if ♦Q or ♦J did not show up on first round, I will throw the ♦T, keeping weight to establishment ♠ and ♥ threat in dummy. And pull the last trump with both ♠ and ♥ establishment threats in dummy. The main line here if ♥ are not 3-3, is that WEST is simpled squeezed with 4♥ and 5♠ or that a double squeeze exist with WEST with four ♥ and now only EAST can stop ♦ threat in my hand, so a type B2 double squeeze (after using ♥Ace and ♦ ace to test ♥ and isolate the menance, as outlined by luis. An interesting case occurs when WEST discards a ♥s on the trumps presumably to preserve long ♠. Now you might play WEST for 4/5♠ and doubleton ♥ or singleton ♥. Not wildly likely given the opening lead, but if this is a european style-2nd/4th best lead, maybe it is from Q9xxx.... when you would have to play for the trump squeeze... playing for an ending like this.... [hv=n=sk32hjdtc&w=sqt5hd87c&e=sjhkqdqjc&s=sa4hdk2ct]399|300|[/hv] On ♥ACE, what is WEST to play? Not a ♦, you cash ♦ACE setting up the ♦x. Not a ♠, else you cash the ♠AK in that order and ruff a ♠, using the ♦ as a reentry to dummy. Anyway, the hand is almost assuredly cold (there is at least one distribution that nothing works on... WEST four ♥ and east four ♠ and diamonds 4-3... either way... The reason for this is west can keep ♦ and east can keep long ♠ and there is no successful squeeze.. lack of entries for ♥-♦ against WEST since you have to use up your entries to stripe out the EAST stoppers so no reentry. Now, if only WEST had lead a trump against 7♣ you can make against any distribution that the ♣jack falls in if you can figure out who is more likely to have what.... (falsecarding here would be big help to the defense). Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanrover Posted February 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 OK. This is how I played it. I won in hand, drew four rounds of trump, cashed Two spades ending in dummy. Cashed the Diamond Ace, ruffed a spade, and then played for the double squeeze, successfuly. I figured that East rates to have the diamonds (from the lead), and as long as West has the spades (likely given he is also short in clubs), then this makes regardless of the heart layout. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 This line fails when EAST has four ♠ and 3+♦ and west has four ♥. That is, WEST can keep ♦ and ♥ and your squeeze fails. Why? The entry is all wrong. Assume the ending comes to one where EAST has ♥ and ♠ threat behind dummy (the ♥ threat and the ♠ theat are both in dummy)... so there is no what Clyde Love refers to as an "upper threat". The ♦T is an illusion, as I pointed out, even if EAST has 4♠, 4♥ and three ♦ to QJ.. no squeeze... because dummy is squeezed before east is (now if he is 4-4-5-0, but then you lose a ♣ to the jack. Here is your ending...with two tricks to play, to illustrate my point.[hv=n=s5hajdtc&w=shq93d7c&e=s6hktdqc&s=sh2d3cak]399|300|[/hv] What do you throw off from dummy on the next to last ♣? Not a ♥, everyone can throw ♥ from then on. Not a ♠, because that is one of your threats. So you pitch the ♦T.. and east lets go the ♦Q (can actually even throw away a ♥ if he likes). Now the next ♥ west throws a ♥ keeping Queen and one, and east throws his ♦ now. This upper defect is why I said that you can not make when WEST has 4♥ and EAST has four ♠.. west just guards ♥ and ♦, and east follows your discard on the last trump.... now if they lead a anything other than a ♦ the play will work... but that is another story.... Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanrover Posted February 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Y, i understand, but what lay out does mine fail on that others make on and vice versa. Also - It looks like West has 2 diamonds from the opening lead. He has 2 clubs and you assume he had <4 spades, assume 3. This means he has all 6 hearts! And there was no lightner double so this can not be! The only reasonable way that your layout can exist would be if West had lead from a three card suit and had exactly 3-5-3-2 distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 First, you are right that your line fails on some layout that all lines fail on, like I belive the following hand. I don't think anything works...but look WEST has only 4 ♦ and not specifically 5332 distribution here (but I may misunderstood your leading point). [hv=n=skxxxhajxxxxdatxc&w=sqt9hkt93d9876cjx&e=sjxxxhqxdqjxcxxxx&s=saxhxdkxxcakqtxxx]399|300|[/hv] But here is hand everyone in the room is making by ruffing two ♥ and your line goes down on. Now squeeze do exist, but your line of 4♣ two ♠, ♦A and ♠ ruff does not. [hv=n=skxxxhajxxxxdatxc&w=sqt9hkt93d9876cjx&e=sjxxxhqxdqjxcxxxx&s=saxhxdkxxcakqtxxx]399|300|[/hv] Don't get me wrong I love the hand, it is an interesting hand to study. Matter of fact, if I was going to use it as a puzzle, I would have WEST open a lucas 2♠ bid and then lead the ♦. Now the winning line is earmarked from the bidding and is counter intuative (win ♦ACE at trick one). Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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