What is going on?

[han]

I was joking, hope that was obvious.

[skjaeran]

Put me firmly in the 7♠ camp. Partner didn't double 7♦. Not bidding 7♠ really looks incredible to me.

[mikeh]

I was joking, hope that was obvious.

me too: sometimes the smilies aren't enough B)

[han]

Hehe, glad you were.

[Walddk]

Partner didn't double 7♦. Not bidding 7♠ really looks incredible to me.

Why would he double 7♦ if he can see it down, with no defence against 7♥? Partner doesn't know anything about your hand since you passed all along. This is the expert forum, so I am sure no one would double a contract they know goes down if they can't double the contract the opponents may retreat to.

 

Roland

[mike777]

It does seem many posters are assuming partner is bidding 6s on 9 spades to the jack and no defense.

[Guest Jlall]

I would take the save, passing is banking on a trump trick with pard. It's certainly possible but it's a big gamble. I think hoping that your expert opp has bid 7D on a void is very wishful thinking.

[Blofeld]

It does seem many posters are assuming partner is bidding 6s on 9 spades to the jack and no defense.

Well, let's see if we can work through the logic of this one:

 

Partner bid 6♠ missing the A, K, Q and another spade. While she may have entertained it as a possibility, she can't have had the expectation of making. Therefore she must have bid it with the intention of sacrificing. Which means she expected 6♥ was making, which does rather suggest not much in the way of defence.

 

There's no guarantee of 9 spades, but there's got to be some pretty extreme length to justify a bid like that.

[mike777]

It does seem many posters are assuming partner is bidding 6s on 9 spades to the jack and no defense.

Well, let's see if we can work through the logic of this one:

 

Partner bid 6♠ missing the A, K, Q and another spade. While she may have entertained it as a possibility, she can't have had the expectation of making. Therefore she must have bid it with the intention of sacrificing. Which means she expected 6♥ was making, which does rather suggest not much in the way of defence.

 

There's no guarantee of 9 spades, but there's got to be some pretty extreme length to justify a bid like that.

but why push them to a possible making grand slam for down something vul?

It just seems to be guessing after the opp have guessed?

[Walddk]

I'm just waiting for David Burn to say "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark". There is, but what is it? B)

 

Roland

[Halo]

Double.

 

Don't see anyone making seven of anything.

[Tomi2]

i think lho has 0-7-6-0, rho 0-2-3-8, partner 9-0-2-2

i see 7 spades going for -4 thats -1100

if they realy have their grand, than this is cheap, else not

i double and hope for that ♦Q in partners hand or maybe one of them will pull to 7♥ - nobody knows. Maybe I am wrong, but:

The only thing I am sure about, is that my spade holding makes NOT an autmatic 7♠ bd

 

when will we get the solution of this hand?

[Walddk]

when will we get the solution of this hand?

Some time Wednesday European time.

 

Roland

[kenrexford]

LHO is 0=7=6=0

Parnter is 9=0=1=3

RHO is 0=2=4=7

 

(you can fiddle around with the red suit holdings slightly)

 

7D could well be making

You haven't given any vulnerability, so I don't know what the odds are, but it looks right to save.

 

Phil's suggestion is also possible of course.

I'm there as well.

[inquiry]

Looking at AKQx of spades and realizing partner passed initially over 4♣, I am not thinking partner bid 6♠ to make. He was taking a save and his choice of suit got EAST to bid 7, which I don't really think was meant as a save either (it might be a maybe we make, maybe we go down one bid, however). But RHO has REDS, LHO has clubs. PArtner? Well he has a bunch of spades. I am thinking 9 at this vulnerability only because 10 is not possible given I have four of them.

 

So we have no spade tricks, and parnter didn't hit 7♦, and the club queen is dead given the VUL 4♣ opening bid. Do I really think I am going to win the fourth round of hearts against grand slam? Sorry, as much as I dislike it, I have zero defense and partner took a save... a save for which I have a great fit. I think 7♠ is probably -1100 unless we can ruff a diamond or two. But so be it, 7♠, and dare them to bid 7NT. :P

[benlessard]

Partner think that 6S is a cheap sacrifice so with my AKQx lets just say that 7S is going to be cheap too.

 

I don't think a pseudo lightner X will push the opps to 7H.

 

Im not really fond of taking insurances bids. But this seems like a clearcut case.

[mike777]

i repeat assume p has 9 spades to the j...why is that a cheap save?...I hate when partner guess on nothing

 

i hate when partner makes random guess..after opp have guessed and maybe opp have guessed wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Codo]

7 Spade will win any post mortem. But maybe pass will win the hand.

 

I would bid 7 Spade on all odd days, pass on the even days. Today is the 21. so...

[Walddk]

A teaser before I reveal the full hand in a few hours:

 

2100 points at stake :rolleyes:

 

Roland

[Walddk]

[hv=d=e&v=b&n=s875432hdakq963cj&w=s109hakq765432dc32&e=sjhdj10854cak108754&s=sakq6hj1098d72cq96]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

4♣* -- pass - 6♥ - 6♠

pass - pass - 7♦ - pass

pass - ??

 

Here is the full hand. Phil was the only one who got it right as to the distribution around the table. Our "hero" in the South seat took out insurance, bid 7♠, got doubled and conceded 1100.

 

A pass would have yielded 1000 for down 10. The deal created many different auctions and results as one would imagine.

 

Table results:

7♠X -1100

7♥X +800

6♠X -800 (3 times)

6♥X +200 (2 times)

6♥X +500

6♣X +800

5♥X +200 (2 times)

4♠P -100

 

Roland

[whereagles]

wow, the idea behind 7♦ was nice.

[brianshark]

I get +800. I'm happy.

[gwnn]

i happen to think the 6♠ bid was dumb.

[Walddk]

i happen to think the 6♠ bid was dumb.

Count me in as dumb then. I would also have bid 6♠ and passed 7♦. West's 6♥ and 7♦ were crazy, but there is no law against being lucky.

 

Roland